Help: 1910 Ross MkIII - Disassembly, Cleaning, and Restoration

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I recently acquired two MkIII Ross Rifles. One has been sporterized and the other is a little beat up, but otherwise complete. I'm looking for some advice regarding the disassembly and cleaning of the entire rifle. CGN gave me the last bits of information I needed to be familiar with the [color="#000FF"]complete disassembly of the bolt[/color] (One is pinned, and one is not - I am aware of the bolt misassembly danger).

I'm hoping I can get a little advice from experienced owners. If you consider yourself knowledgeable about the Ross, I'd really appreciate some insight.


What is the extent of total disassembly?
I'm aware that some parts of the rifle cannot be disassembled, such as the magazine, which is pressed together. I'd like to get them into as many pieces as I can without breaking anything so I can check for and remove rust.

How should the bolt be cleaned?
It's been suggested I use a light dish soap and water, scrub with a toothbrush, dry thoroughly, and oil everything. The inside of the bolt itself (not the sleeve) seems like it will be the most challenging, and any tool suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Does the bolt need grease anywhere, or will regular gun oil suffice?

How can I clean the magazine?
My complete Ross has been a little neglected. The inside of the magazine is caked with either grease/cosmoline or some seriously dirty oil. It's also got hairs and bits of other non-metallic debris. Since it doesn't come apart I'm hoping someone has some advice on how to clean the inside. When it is clean, does it get oiled or greased?
Picture - Inside Magazine

Does this look okay to you?
The bolt has some heavy wear at the open end: A flat square-ish area and a sizable scrape. If this isn't normal, what's wrong? If it is normal, is there anything I can do to mitigate the wear?
Picture - Bolt Wear 1
Picture - Bolt Wear 2
Picture - Bolt Wear 3

I would really like to get these cleaned and restored. Any advice to that end will be greatly appreciated.
 
Liberal use of a heated ultrasonic cleaner and a source of heat to dry the parts will help you a lot with deep cleaning of metal parts. After that, lots of oil. You could conceivably dunk the entire barreled action in an ultrasonic tank if you had one big enough, check around with the local gunsmiths, they might have one.
 
Just use a solvent to flush out the magazine assembly, then a bit of lube.
"Bolt wear". Is this on the pinned bolt assembly?
 
tiriaq said:
"Bolt wear". Is this on the pinned bolt assembly?
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It is. But the pin only contacts the worn area if the bolt is inserted incorrectly during assembly. So contact is brief. When the bolt is properly assembled the pin contacts the area of the bolt shown in This Picture, which is a shallow groove, nowhere near as shiny and worn. Do you think maybe the pin hindered assembly, and the area was intentionally ground down?
 
That bolt has been ground. It appears that the lugs have been shortened to remove bruising or deforming of lugs. I would not use this firearm with bolt in this condition with full pressure loads. This reply is coming from a Ross collector.
 
Buwanna said:
That bolt has been ground. It appears that the lugs have been shortened to remove bruising or deforming of lugs. I would not use this firearm with bolt in this condition with full pressure loads. This reply is coming from a Ross collector.
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Welcome back to the forum - 2nd post since Jan, 2014.
 
Buwanna said:
That bolt has been ground. It appears that the lugs have been shortened to remove bruising or deforming of lugs. I would not use this firearm with bolt in this condition with full pressure loads. This reply is coming from a Ross collector.
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Thanks for the heads up. Are you referring to the locking lugs on the bolt head? If you've got a picture of an unaffected bolt for comparison that would be great.
 
BadgerDog said:
You might want to grab yourself the original manual.

There's a link to a free download of a Adobe PDF file (only 4.5 Mb) version of the manual in the MKL article.
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Thanks, Doug. The version I had previously did not contain the second disassembly booklet. This was a big help!
 
Buwanna said:
That bolt has been ground. It appears that the lugs have been shortened to remove bruising or deforming of lugs. I would not use this firearm with bolt in this condition with full pressure loads. This reply is coming from a Ross collector.
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Please elaborate. I have looked at the pics at least ten times, and everything looks good to me.
 
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