Help! Beretta 682 Gold E barrel weld missing

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Hello fellow clay busters, I've just noticed that on the barrel of my Beretta 682 Gold E, one of the soldering is missing. :mad:

I know for a fact that it was there until very recently, I've had the gun for 7 years. This is a xtrap model, I used to rest the barrel against a leather patch on my foot during turns, I don't think that will cause this to happen...

Can anyone take a look and let me know if this is serious? Will the two barrels come apart? This is causing me to lose confidence in the gun which can't be good for my mental game when I'm shooting...:(

Here's the photo:

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Can't comment on if it will affect anything, but I have several skeet partners that shoot the 682 Gold E heavily over many many years , and I've never seen anything close to that.
I'm easy on imperfections & minor hiccups, but if it was mine, I would contact Stoeger/Beretta Canada and have them do something.

Even I wouldn't be happy with that.

Keep us posted btw.

Contact name & number @ Stoeger/Beretta Canada PM'd to ya
 
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Not a big deal, your barrel is attached all the way down.

I'm sure you can get warranty work done on it but it's more or less there for aesthetics and keeping debris out of the void.
 
I don't know if it's the picture but it looks like the side rib may be separating a bit from the lower barrel. If so I'd would get it into a gunsmith who can resolder the front of the side rib. Don't just go to anyone to do it but someone who understands how to attach a side rib.

And even if it's fine as is anything that gets into your head while shooting is never a good thing.
 
It is only a filler at the end of the barrel. A good gunsmith can put a dab of silver solder to fill it. None of this happens anymore as there is a minimal hand at making things at Beretta. They spent 120 million Euros in two years, to create cell manufacturing. All parts are now machine made and machine checked. This has eliminated hand fitting! All of the old punch and roll engravings and even the DT11L are laser engraved. There is now, only assembly and no need for fitting. There are two gunsmiths that check every shotgun before it goes to packaging. BTW, Beretta is one of the only manufacturers in Italy to in house proof test!
 
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It is only a filler at the end of the barrel. A good gunsmith can put a dab of silver solder to fill it. None of this happens anymore as there is a minimal hand at making things at Beretta. They spent 120 million Euros in two years, to create cell manufacturing. All parts are now machine made and machine checked. This has eliminated hand fitting! All of the old punch and roll engravings and even the DT11L are laser engraved. There is now, only assembly and no need for fitting. There are two gunsmiths that check every shotgun before it goes to packaging. BTW, Beretta is one of the only manufacturers in Italy to in house proof test!
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TO summarize there is now even less reason to buy a beretta, the manual labour of skilled craftsmen is what has drawn so many to and to pay more for over the years.

The best shotgun barrel makers still straighten their barrels by eye using special equipment as no machine can currently do what a trained human eye can, when it comes to bending shotgun barrels.

Not to say that a machine can't get it close however.

Handfitting in my opinion will always result in a better finished product. When machines are left to it and parts are just assembled because they are supposed to meet tolerances, they will never beat someone actually filing and polishing components together for perfect and smooth function.

As for the OP's problem you just need someone to put a little solder in the end, not a hard job for most gunsmiths.

If you were going to have the whole side rib removed and the barrels reblued, then I would be particular about it as your POI and barrel regulation could be seriously affected.
 
gwagen said:
TO summarize there is now even less reason to buy a beretta, the manual labour of skilled craftsmen is what has drawn so many to and to pay more for over the years.

The best shotgun barrel makers still straighten their barrels by eye using special equipment as no machine can currently do what a trained human eye can, when it comes to bending shotgun barrels.

Not to say that a machine can't get it close however.

Handfitting in my opinion will always result in a better finished product. When machines are left to it and parts are just assembled because they are supposed to meet tolerances, they will never beat someone actually filing and polishing components together for perfect and smooth function.
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+1 Recently I was comparing a new machine-made DT11 and a 20 year old Beretta ASE90, the hand-made predecessor of the DT series. Not surprisingly, the fit, finish and functioning of the ASE were notably better.

It's ridiculous for anyone to promote Beretta, much less admire them, for using less handwork in its higher end guns. CNC construction and laser engraving are hardly virtues when discussing 5 figure shotguns.
 
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And what he really means is that the "in-house" Beretta proof house is run under the oversight of the National Proof house to reduce costs (I've had the opportunity to visit both). They just make enough guns to make it worthwhile.
I've had the opportunity to visit Fabbri, Piotti, H&H, Purdey and a few others and I can tell you that no automated manufacturing technique beats the fitting of a skilled craftsman (or woman).
 
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And what he really means is that the "in-house" Beretta proof house is run under the oversight of the National Proof house to reduce costs (I've had the opportunity to visit both). They just make enough guns to make it worthwhile.
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Exactly. Anyone with a knowledge of proofing systems would understand that it is hardly a big deal that proofing might take place under Beretta's roof under the auspices of the Italian Proof House. If I recall correctly, DIARM had a similar arrangement when it was in operation in Spain.

Italy is a member of C.I.P. (Commission Internationale Permanente pour l'Epreuve des Armes à Feu Portatives) and all proofing must be done under the control of National Proof House officials. No gunmaker in a C.I.P. country does its own proofing.
 
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