Help For Reload 223

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Hi,

I have a question for us
I have 1 rifle for now and the second in direction (December Hops:))
1) M4 Stag Lefty 16 inch
2) Norinco T97

I start to reload my 223 with my Lee Pro 1000 and with Lee Deluxe die set
I want to know if i buy Bullet Honardy A-Max 75 grs if it's ok or if it's too heavy bullet.
for the brass i use Win and FC
for the primer WSR sm rifle
for the Powder WC-735
thanks
 
Shooting the 75 amax will be a single round loading affair as you cannot effectively seat them to magazine lengths. As well, your 1:9 twist may or may not stabilize these bullets.

Additionally, your powder choice is a little on the fast side. I'd choose something slower like Varget.
 
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If you are "fun" shooting, just the cheap FMJs pushed by 23.5 gr. IMR 3031 do just fine, if you are into competitions, then the heavier bullets and a developed load. Takes time but a lot of fun . I shoot out to 1000 yards with my savage .223.
 
beltfed said:
Shooting the 75 amax will be a single round loading affair as you cannot effectively seat them to magazine lengths. As well, your 1:9 twist may or may not stabilize these bullets.

Additionally, your powder choice is a little on the fast side. I'd choose something slower like Varget.
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Agreed regarding length and powder.

For the stabilization, the Stag 1/9 is actually about 1/8.5" and does stabilize many 75gn bullets, I can't speak for the AMAX though (anyone?). The AMAX doesn't fit in the mag, that I do know. (Not always a big deal). The Hornady 75gn JHPBT work great out of my 16" and 20" 1/9 Stags.

To the OP. How far are you shooting these reloads at? For 100-200m a lot of people have good luck with ~52gn match bullets. 68gn work well out to 600m at least.

I usually load bulk 55FMJ bullets for general shooting/IPSC, they're as cheap as it gets and while they're no benchrest type accuracy (repeatable realistic 1.5"-1.75"/100m), they get the job done, especially at 15m.

We have customer pics of MOA groups with C77 5.56 Ball out of the Stag 1/9. :D
 
I use the WC735 ball powder like you mentioned. I push a 68 and 69 gr bullet with about 23.5 gr WC735, around 2800 fps. Then I've bumped up my loads to 25.0 gr WC735 to get just under 3000 fps with the 68 gr Hornady's. With the 75 gr Hornad bullets, I would keep things at 23.5 gr and monitor for safe pressure signs.

Cheers,
Barney
 
Thanks for all your answer
I want to shoot at 300-600 m.
for the fun i use 55 FMJ/BT Hornady bulk and work great
For the bullet i see some use 68 grs and 75 grs JHPBT, what is the best choice?
for the primer i use Win but some guys says me CCI 450 is better real or not ?
Cyril

Ps: can you says me if is better use NECK EXPANDER DIE or not ?
 
MaxQc said:
Thanks for all your answer
I want to shoot at 300-600 m.
for the fun i use 55 FMJ/BT Hornady bulk and work great
For the bullet i see some use 68 grs and 75 grs JHPBT, what is the best choice?
for the primer i use Win but some guys says me CCI 450 is better real or not ?
Cyril

Ps: can you says me if is better use NECK EXPANDER DIE or not ?
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I have a 1/9 twist savage best i got it work with was with 68 grain BTHP and 25 gr of varget - although same bullet with 22 grain of 335 was good as well . Used win brass and primer in both.
 
The 68s (and 69 SMK) work really well up to about 300m, and o.k. at 400m.
The 75 bthp (and 77 SMKs) generally outshine the 68s & 69s 400m and out, but really outclass them in the wind, regardless of distance.

Don't confuse the Hornady 75 bthp / 75 amax, as they are completely different bullets with the exception of the weight.
 
The 75gr hollowpoint is shorter than the AMax, so has less of a stability problem. I am sure a hp will work in a 1:9. Not sure of the A max. You might be able to load the 75 hp short enough to fit in a magazine. Might have to back off the powder a bit.
 
OK, i understand
I have another question
I see on website of honardy Moly Bullet but i don't understand what is the interest, can you help me to understand me
thanks
 
Moly coating is a black film that is applied to the bullets... it helps reduce friction and aparently makes the bullets more uniform as far as overall muzzle velocity and performance is concerned. They normally cost about 2 dollars a box more and your hands get all coated from molybdenum sulphide that is applied.
 
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