Help ID this 22 Hornet pilot's rifle....

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Looking to see if anyone here has any info on this rifle. I was told it was issued to a Cdn Forces pilot during WW2 era, caliber is 22 Hornet, all steel, collapsible but stock, single shot, bolt action.









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astuart44
 
Not a single shot, you are only missing the mag.... I think the Lyman sight is a modification. Restricted. Personaly I think it's a brilliant design and I wish someone could produce it again. If you Google M-4 survival rifle you should find lots. Some were made up here, some were built by H&R I believe. I belive they were in the survival packs of RCAP P-51 Mustangs and F-86 Sabers...

Denis
 
Thanks guys. A contact in the US came across it....I guess it makes more sense that it was issued primarily to USAF as opposed to CAF.

Cheers,

Andy
 
The Canadian models were made in Drummondville Quebec in a plant set up by H&R. It shut down due to labour problems. I have been looking into these for a while but haven't been able to find anything official stating which planes they were in. I was told that they were removed from the planes shortly after being issued because it was decided that the same weight in emergency rations would be more help to a downed pilot than a tiny rifle.

They are restricted because the can be fired with the stock collapsed, making it under 26" overall length. This means that they would automatically be used for robbing banks and killing babies if not restricted. I bought mine from a fellow who had carried it on his tractor for years to shoot groundhogs. I imagine it would have been pretty handy for that.
 
The Canadian models were made in Drummondville Quebec in a plant set up by H&R. It shut down due to labour problems. I have been looking into these for a while but haven't been able to find anything official stating which planes they were in. I was told that they were removed from the planes shortly after being issued because it was decided that the same weight in emergency rations would be more help to a downed pilot than a tiny rifle.

They are restricted because the can be fired with the stock collapsed, making it under 26" overall length. This means that they would automatically be used for robbing banks and killing babies if not restricted. I bought mine from a fellow who had carried it on his tractor for years to shoot groundhogs. I imagine it would have been pretty handy for that.

thanks thats what I thought.
 
The Canadian models were made in Drummondville Quebec in a plant set up by H&R. It shut down due to labour problems. I have been looking into these for a while but haven't been able to find anything official stating which planes they were in. I was told that they were removed from the planes shortly after being issued because it was decided that the same weight in emergency rations would be more help to a downed pilot than a tiny rifle.

They are restricted because the can be fired with the stock collapsed, making it under 26" overall length. This means that they would automatically be used for robbing banks and killing babies if not restricted. I bought mine from a fellow who had carried it on his tractor for years to shoot groundhogs. I imagine it would have been pretty handy for that.

For a rifle that could be replicated in basic form with almost any .22lr or .22hornet action, some spare metal bits and bobs, and about 20 minutes with a welder... This gun is an almost pure example of why our gun laws are dumb.
 
For a rifle that could be replicated in basic form with almost any .22lr or .22hornet action, some spare metal bits and bobs, and about 20 minutes with a welder... This gun is an almost pure example of why our gun laws are dumb.

The STEN gun of Varmint rifles. :) Gotta love it.

Grizz
 

D@mn you, you know you just put me on some CSIS/RCMP "list" for even looking at that web page.

Dangit, I would really like to have one of those. I had been thinking of building a "survival rifle with a PVC tube as both packing container and stock" based off a Cricket or some such, but wasn't sure how to keep it all legal. There are a few designs floating around that would work, but the problem is you can fire any of them without the stock attached.
 
For a rifle that could be replicated in basic form with almost any .22lr or .22hornet action, some spare metal bits and bobs, and about 20 minutes with a welder... This gun is an almost pure example of why our gun laws are dumb.

gun laws are only to affect the law abiding anyone can go to a hardware store and get everything to build a .22 zip gun or a 12ga shotgun or even a sub machine gun
 
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