Help identifying an odd old lever action rifle

[yorgi]

Belongs to a friend, has had it for decades, relegated to the back of his safe, not for sale just wants to know what he has.

I was unable to help, my knowledge of levers is minimal...maybe somebody knows what he has, I'd appreciate your insight.

Best of my limited knowledge, it's not a Winchester. If I had to bet on it, I'd say it's some French copy of a Winchester. Top eject, most of the pertinent rolls marks are faded and worn, all I can distinguish are patents and a partial mark "...RORDOT" (?). Barrel diameter looks to be 30 calibre, seemed very light. Sorry, this is the only pic I took of it.

 

[chasseur]

Hard to tell from just one pic but it looks like a colt burgess carbine

 

[marshall]

Did you look on the barrel?
Looks like a alloy frame, not old, But ???????????????

 

[yorgi]

Did you look on the barrel?
Looks like a alloy frame, not old, But ???????????????

Yes, I wanted to say alloy frame but was afraid I'd get tarred and feathered by the experts...

 

[tiriaq]

Hard to tell from just one pic but it looks like a colt burgess carbine

Did a 'net search...
Sure looks like a Colt Burgess.

 

[struff55]

What it looks like and what it is are not the same there should b something on the bbl . Very 1970’s erma knock off looking
Also if it old there should something on the tang .

 

[tiriaq]

The Erma/Ithaca lever action rifles have a different receiver profile. Lots of photos on the 'net. They also have a steel receiver cover over a diecast frame.
The Erma receiver profile is similar to that of a 9422 - flat along the bottom.
This rifle has a protrusion where the lever pivots.

 

[yorgi]

Thanks for all the suggestions guys, don't want to leave this question hanging... Just called my friend and asked him for some more pics, actually his kid because he's a Luddite. Here's a pic of all the top faded rollmarks, did not think anyone would find it helpful but you never know.

 

[yorgi]

More (dubious quality...sorry) pics.

 

[yorgi]

Thanks for your help guys. No way i would have thought it qas a Colt Burgess. Googled and found someone that listed all the patent dates on his Colt and they match the one my friend has. The partial roll mark I mentioned before is probably "HARTFORD".

So I'll tell him he has a beat-up reblued Colt, appreciate all your help.

 

[marshall]

Looking at the date , sounded right, but flash glare, could not read the rest.
That is a model I have never had.