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Hi all - not sure whether to put this in the hunting or reloading.

I've got a Savage 99 in 358 Win. I have a few very old 250 gr Winchester Silvertip loads that it seems to shoot really well. But my supply of those is about up. I'd like a little more velocity, but still want a heavy bullet. I know that at 358 velocities I don't really need a premium bullet, but I'd like very much to use the 225 gr Nosler Accubond. But I can't seem to find anybody who seems to carry this bullet.

Does anybody know where I can get this bullet in Canada? Or does anybody have another suggestion that is available?

Thanks,

RG

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For the 358 and its velocity don't underestimate the Speer 220 grain hot core, it's accurate, tough and deadly.
 
A Savage 99 in 358 is quite a collectable if all original. Great gun and calibre
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The 225 partition or 225 accubond (try Russels) would be good. You should make somewhere around 2400 to maybe(?) 2500 with the right powders. One writer called the 225partition his do all "smart bomb" for his 358. The 225 accubond is proving to be a tough bullet for tough animals. But it's looong and I find it (actually the 225ballistictip which is the same external shape as the accubond) eats up too much boiler room space when at max COAL in my 358s. It's hard to get enough of my normal powders inside to get it up to potential. That's what I've found to date.

Yes the Speer 220FN is a good one.

Also for decades many have used the 250SpeerHC with the 358 for everything up to and including Yukon Moose with great success. I can usually make 2300 with a 20" barrel but some make 2400 with a 22" tube I think. Anything at 2250MV and up with a 250 will do it all.

I had an American friend a while back with a 1000 of 250gr .358 Silvertips bullets for reloading he wanted to sell at a decent price. I passed on them as I didn't know how to get em here legally without breaking the bank.

Here are a few of my 358 loading results;
http://www.35cal.com/ruger77_358frontier.html
http://www.35cal.com/loading.html#blr

And there are three articles on the 358 with bullet info I have linked here.
http://www.35cal.com/articles.html

Hope this interests you.
 
Thanks WB!

Thanks for all the great data. I'm not handloading yet myself, but my cousin makes great ammo for me. I was concerned about length and a sleek bullet, but it seems like your loads include some respectable velocities with 225 gr SPBT bullets.

In fact I think that the rifle is original, but I have not yet looked into this carefully. It has some wear to the finish, but I'm pretty sure that it would be rated as very good condition. I have not got enough of one load together yet to get a real test of accuracy, but from sighting in I'd say its a shooter. It has a 24 inch barrel, so I think I should end up doing fine for velocity.

RG

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you may find the 225 gr Accubond too long to fit in the 358 case when seated to a length that will fit in your magazine. I believe it was designed for the 35 Whelen

if I was you, Id check out the Sierra 225 gr BTSP
 
I'm not familiar with sierra bullets. I just checked their website. All they promote for the features of the gameking (that seems to be the only SPBT), is the shape, and nothing about the construction. Should I assume this is a traditional construction bullet? I was hoping to try a bonded bullet.

RG

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RG ...

Pretty much on the same page as Whelen B.

For deer, for your 358, I would look at either the 180 gr. Speer FNSP or
200 gr. Hornady RN. ... and slow your loads down to something like 2400 fps for the 180 and 2200 fps for the 220. The Winchester factory loaded 358's are a little too robust for deer IMHO, but O.K. for moose.

Handloading for moose, both the 220 gr. Speer FNSP and Hornady 250 gr. RN also work well at close to moderate ranges like we typically see in Ontario. I've found that it's not neccessary to drive these bullets at maximum velocities for the 35 Remington & 358 Winchester's to work well ... 2400 works for the 220's and 2200 for the 250's. I would recommend full length sizing every time for the Savage.

Nosler's 225 gr. Accubonds and 225 & 250 gr. Partitions are good, but, IMHO, more suited to the 35's that can drive them a little faster, like the
350 Rem Mag, 35 Whelen, 358 Norma etc.
 
The 250 grain Speer Hotcore is indeed a good bullet, and in Speer's recommendation, a good application for the the largest game at the top end of your rifle's application. Thus ... "good" for moose ... not so for deer - a little too much penetration.
 
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