HELP! My Winchester 1894 is jamming

Jim Rock

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I slipped off the stock with the intention of taking the receiver apart to clean the gun but then found al the moving parts too complicated and intimidating so I popped the stock back on. Now the rifle won't cycle smoothly anymore and often jams. Has anyone else had this issue? Did I need to toque the screws just so? Did a tiny piece fall out I can't see? I know this is vague but if anyone in Vancouver wants to take a look I would much appreciate it...

Thanks!!
 
JR, while your waiting some answers from more qualified nutters, have you stopped by u toob for some more information and possible solutions?
I wouldnt take all the info there as gospel till it has been collaborated by a few others, but it may offer some direction and a possible solution.
I usually fix things till they are broke and end there myself with most things including my bike from time to time
Rob
 
Make sure you didn't over tighten then screw which holds the butt stock through the tang. This may bind the hammer slightly. It is possible to crack the steel at the tang if overtightened particularly on the older model 94's. Disassembly is not required for cleaning. A good aerosol cleaner will suffice. Just put some newspapers under the rifle and blow the cleaner down through the action then re oil.
 
JR

I haven't owned a winchester lever in a long time but it is just another machine. If you can't get it operating I am in Abbotsford. The first thing I would do is load up 3 rounds of 30-30 (I assume it is 30-30???) with no primer or powder so we can try to get it to function...

PM me if you need to...
 
I have a feeling I overtightened the screws, will go for that first and then hit this u toob that's been spoken of....
 
c-fmbi, you bring up a good point.
I was going to ask J R to post a picture of his find, but thought it was already corrected and worthy of another post on my behalf.
Far be it from me to suggest he document his troubles and finding, but in this case maybe there is something more going on and a couple of pics (providing JR has the tools required and the time) there might be someone else who may see what is out of whack with his lever gun.
Just spit balling JR.
Rob
 
I'm with Mike Webb on this, don't take them apart to oil. It is not required and many times it results in grief.
A year of so ago I acquired a Model 1894 30 WCF that was made in 1908. I bought it from an extended member of the original owner, a ranching family. The rifle spent the first eighty or so, years of its life as a working ranch rifle. I also got with it the original, very well worn scabbard that had held it on horses for all those years.
The rifle is well worn, with little, or no bluing left, but there is no sign of abuse, and no rust anywhere, indicating it had always been well oiled. The rifle cycles and shoots like it was new, ask Kamlooky!
Every screw the rifle had is still in place and the screw heads show no sign, whatsoever, they have ever been taken out of the rifle. It's quite obvious the rifle has never been taken apart!
What better proof do you need that it is completely unnecessary to take a 94 Winchester apart to clean or oil it?
 
I take all my guns apart once in a while (when I first get them or every couple of years depending on how often I use them). But that is what I enjoy and I am very mechanically inclined. That is how I found the broken part in my rifle, plus learn about the internals of the guns. Not saying everyone should. If you do never force anything and keep track of parts (as there can be some really small ones).
 
Doing some research on y-tube or the internet may bring up some good information to help one out, may just have to weed through some that are not so good. Taking photos and/or video along the way can help as well.
 
H4831 said:
I'm with Mike Webb on this, don't take them apart to oil. It is not required and many times it results in grief.
A year of so ago I acquired a Model 1894 30 WCF that was made in 1908. I bought it from an extended member of the original owner, a ranching family. The rifle spent the first eighty or so, years of its life as a working ranch rifle. I also got with it the original, very well worn scabbard that had held it on horses for all those years.
The rifle is well worn, with little, or no bluing left, but there is no sign of abuse, and no rust anywhere, indicating it had always been well oiled. The rifle cycles and shoots like it was new, ask Kamlooky! Every screw the rifle had is still in place and the screw heads show no sign, whatsoever, they have ever been taken out of the rifle. It's quite obvious the rifle has never been taken apart!
What better proof do you need that it is completely unnecessary to take a 94 Winchester apart to clean or oil it?
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That is an intriguing neat old Winchester Mr. H.
I'd own it in a heart beat.
Dang thing has a wee bit more history then you ............. huh?




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