Help required to identify shotgun choke

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I could use a hand to identify a choke on a 1940 Winchester model 12 I inherited. Part of it is broken and I have spent a lot of time on google trying to find anything close with no luck. The info I have on the choke, it says either

"L.Randall vented choke" or "C.Randall vented choke".

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teknition said:
I figured I would get more traffic in the general section.



Yes it's broken, that is why I'm trying to identify it and find a replacement. Thanks for the suggestion, I will try there as well.
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Replacement?? NOT .You will be lucky to find anyone that can even remember it
I thought I may have seen them all over the years but sure never had my hands or seen of those
There was a buck shot choke similar in those days but not 100% exact
Indian creek makes a somewhat looking thread in but that is for modern guns with tubes not this thing
Cheers

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Those type of chokes became unuseable with the coming of plastic wads. Previous wad systems using card and felt or fiber wads worked well in those type of muti-choke systems. However plastic wads would start to open up in the gas expansion section and gum up this section and often break it apart in the same manner as has happened to yours.
 
Does that choke indicate anywhere if it was made in Canada? GB Crandall was a gunsmith who took over the Tobin arms company when it went under and made various “inventions” in Woodstock. I am just wondering if it is his work.

An old post on the double gun forum indicates he made ported choke tubes.
 
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Thanks for the replies gents. Looks like I will take my second choice option and have the barrel cut and threaded for screw in chokes. No mention on the choke of where it was made, the rest just says US & CAN patents applied for.
 
Plastic wads did that? My first thought was that someone shot steel through it, but maybe it's a good thing if it failed before steel was a thing.
 
teknition said:
Thanks for the replies gents. Looks like I will take my second choice option and have the barrel cut and threaded for screw in chokes. No mention on the choke of where it was made, the rest just says US & CAN patents applied for.
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Is the gun worth that kind of money. A check of what is there and maybe a barrel ream for a choke might be a better option since I have no idea what you plan to use this gun for
I would say maybe thin walls could be fitted but not sure who does those in canada
Cheers
 
dilly said:
Too bad it’s damaged. Could be the only example of the Crandall ported choke left.
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I wont throw it away. Maybe once it is off the barrel I will see if I can fix it.

Big Bad said:
Plastic wads did that? My first thought was that someone shot steel through it, but maybe it's a good thing if it failed before steel was a thing.
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I have no idea how it happened, that's the way I received it.

3macs1 said:
Is the gun worth that kind of money. A check of what is there and maybe a barrel ream for a choke might be a better option since I have no idea what you plan to use this gun for
I would say maybe thin walls could be fitted but not sure who does those in canada
Cheers
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I look at as I don't have a cent invested in it so far, so putting a bit of cash into it doesn't really bother me. I know the gun has no collector value so it will most likely end up a something along the lines of a riot gun for playing around and maybe blasting a few clay targets. I already have shotguns for hunting and clays so I'm not really worried about barrel length on this one.

I will email TacOrd and S&j to see if they may be able to cut and choke this. Any other suggestions?
 
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