Help? Sparkbrook .22cal?

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Hi Guys,

I went to a fellow's house to buy a wood bubba'd P-1914 and also brought home this 22cal trainer. It has a regular magazine, volley sights, 4 digit serial number and I believe the top rear handguard and the first swivel are missing. I paid $250 for it, is that a good deal? There is a '36 on top of the chamber is that the conversion date? Marked "Sparkbrook" over crown over "V.R." over "1898" then "II" cross hached tree times. Most of all what the heck is it called? Ignore the bubba'd P-14 in the back ground.

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Thanks
SW
 
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Is there anything on the left side of the butt socket? Took a quick look in Skennerton, and it appears to be a .22 Short Rifle Mk II. If it is, these were approved for Naval Service, January, 1912, and are converted long rifles, of course. The missing rear handguard is a modified SMLE Mk I. Going to take a bit of searching to find one. Congratulations on a nice find.
 
On the left side, "N" "SHT 22", over "II". All the numbers match. It is a comfortable rifle to hold, I think it may be a keeper. Is it proper to ask what it is worth?

thanks
SW


tiriaq said:
Is there anything on the left side of the butt socket? Took a quick look in Skennerton, and it appears to be a .22 Short Rifle Mk II. If it is, these were approved for Naval Service, January, 1912, and are converted long rifles, of course. The missing rear handguard is a modified SMLE Mk I. Going to take a bit of searching to find one. Congratulations on a nice find.
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OK, .22 Short Rifle MK II. I do not know what it is worth. I am sure that there will be other posters who can give an accurate appraisal. Finding a rear handguard may be an adventure. I think your $250 was well spent.
 
Please correct me if I am wrong, it is a Lee Metford Mark 2 made at Sparkbrook in 1898, converted to a 22 cal Naval training rifle? There is one on Collectablefirearms in the U.S. The two clips on the bolt are for a bolt cover? As a side note the guy I bought it off of told me he had just sporterized two M96 Swedes!


Thanks for all the info.

SW
 
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If it was made in in 1898, it likely would have been a (long) Lee Enfield Mk1, not a Metford. Either way, it doesn;t matter as the Metford MkII and the Enfiedl Mk1 only really differed in the type of rifling, which was changed to a .22 anyhow ;)
 
Steppenwolf said:
I went to the library and actually did some research, according to John Walter's "Rifles of the World" says that about 1000 were converted by Enfield.


SW
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In Skennerton's "The Lee Enfield Story",page 412 has the early 22's and #2's listed. For the 22 Short rifle Mk II, Naval Service, there were 1000 recorded converson's. There may be more.

There were about 85,000 22 conversions of the early models! This figure is very uncertain.
 
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Gibbs505 said:
In Skennerton's "The Lee Enfield Story",page 412 has the early 22's and #2's listed. For the 22 Short rifle Mk II, Naval Service, there were 1000 recorded converson's. There may be more.

There were about 85,000 22 conversions of the early models! This figure is very uncertain.
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