Help valuing / identifying some Enfields

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Hello Folks - Helping my father sort through his possessions and looking for some help valuing some Enfields. I know the pics aren't great. I've tried to estimate a few of them but no clue on the first ones. Any help or pointing me in the right direction would be appreciated.

No. 1 Mk 3, Serial 30***, set up for target shooting (top)

Enfield carbine dated 1896, serial: 12**, marked Royal Northwest Mounted Police (middle)

Ross Cadet 22 (bottom)

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No. 4 Mk 1*, 1942, Serial 120****, RCAF marked - $1200-$1500?

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No. 4 Mk 1*, 1944, Sporterized - $300?

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No. 5 Mk1, W62**, Jungle Carbine -$300?

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That jungle carbine is more then $300. If it has the flash suppressor that along is worth nearly $300

And that LEC (carbine) is in very nice shape. That could be worth some money if original.
 
Yes it has the flash suppressor

The carbine does seem to be in good shape and original, I just can't find much info on it.

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The carbine looks complete and original. That's a nice rifle. I just noticed the RNMP in your description. That is going to add a load of value. What a cool rifle to have. Your father has an awesome collection

And the no5 looks complete then just drilled and tapped. Still worth 650-750 I'm sure.

That no1 with the target sight would be worth probably a grand if it was just setup as a home job. If it was used in a famous shooting competition or regulated by Fulton it may be more desirable since they would have made sure the bedding was correct and the proper upward pressure at the barrel tip, stuff like that
 
Evanguy said:
The carbine looks complete and original. That's a nice rifle. I just noticed the RNMP in your description. That is going to add a load of value. What a cool rifle to have. Your father has an awesome collection

And the no5 looks complete then just drilled and tapped. Still worth 650-750 I'm sure.

That no1 with the target sight would be worth probably a grand if it was just setup as a home job. If it was used in a famous shooting competition or regulated by Fulton it may be more desirable since they would have made sure the bedding was correct and the proper upward pressure at the barrel tip, stuff like that
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Thanks for the info. According to my father, the No 1 was specifically made or set up for competition so not a home job.
 
The SMLE is a competition rifle. Was it a service rifle or a BSA commercial? The added barrel band indicates that the barrel has been "packed" to control vibration. Do you know the provenance of the rifle? If you can find out who used it, the records of the DCRA and NRA of the UK will provide a lot of information about the shooter.
It is not unusual for these elderly target rifles to have Cordite eroded bores. It would probably benefit from having a really good bore cleaning, with a metal fouling remover.
 
I recently sold my all-original RNWMP carbine for North of $3K and I don't think it was as nice as this one appears to be. Same markings. Mine still had the D ring. It appears this one might be a later model, or the D ring was removed. Better pics would be appreciated.
 
GDawg, I have to salute your fathers taste in firearms and appreciate his getting into Milsurps when he started down the collecting road then holding on in original condition.
 
XRCD011 said:
GDawg, I have to salute your fathers taste in firearms and appreciate his getting into Milsurps when he started down the collecting road then holding on in original condition.
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I'll pass that on. He'll appreciate it.
 
Ya, people are buying these at an alarming rate for way too much. Sell now for best pricing. Ammo is not getting any cheaper either.

I would just keep them as an heirloom and go out and shoot them.
 
there are some very desirable rifles there

the but socket markings on the calvary carbine and No1 target would be helpful

the No4 sporter for $300 would sell quickly, it looks like all the metal is untouched so restorable
 
gdawg said:
I'll pass that on. He'll appreciate it.
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We often hope someone will invent a time machine so we can go back and scoop up firearms or other highly valued items like your father had the foresight to acquire and care for.
 
XRCD011 said:
We often hope someone will invent a time machine so we can go back and scoop up firearms or other highly valued items like your father had the foresight to acquire and care for.
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I hear you.

Here is another item that I discovered with him that I suspect you might appreciate. Not a firearm, but a fascinating piece of WW1 Canadian military history.

Lance/Corporal Bellinger was one of the first soldiers in a Canadian regiment killed in Europe.

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If you can get $500 for a drilled and tapped #5, grab the money and run.

That rifle is worth more as parts than in its present configuration.

That NWMP carbine had the wood refinished or cleaned up, to me it looks like someone very carefully cleaned it up, very nice specimen, even with a trash bore it should fetch at least $2k, with a VG or better bore, add whatever the buyer is willing to pay.

That Ross straight pull 22 is unique. Not a lot of them around, they shoot well, if the bores are in excellent condition. Your rifle appears to have been well maintained, so start around $1K. That's what one in similar condition sold for in Chilliwack this last spring.

The No1 with the match sights will fetch appx $1200, they don't move as well as the No4 types in a similar configuration.

The sporter No4 $275-325

The 1942 No4 Mk1* value depends on the manufacturer. Longbranch or Savage. In Canada, the Longbranch name will fetch $1k+, depending on bore condition. If it's a Savage, no more than $1K. Prices today on these rifles aren't as high as they were a year ago.
 
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