Help with IDing this round

Could be a BMABBIS

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Ishodu said:
Only markings I can see are on the top silver section
VS&M 80 . 1 13/0 9/06

There are a few random markings I can make out on the bottom

A V X 7 7
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The 13/09/06 is either the date or the lot number I'm pretty sure it would be the date but I'm not 100% positive

VS&M would be I believe Vickers Son and Maxim.

A V X 7 7 I have no idea on.

that's the extent of my knowledge on that but if you happen to find one that's marked M E Ltd. (Manitoba Engines Limited a Brandon, MB company that made 18pdr shells) let me know.
 
the top should screw off however I have no clue if the round has been fired or if there is anything still active in the round. so if you want to muck around with it, it is your call I'm no expert on anything
 
Looks like an 18-pdr shrapnel round from the Great War.

Fuse is the Number 80, Time and Percussion; it could be set to go off on impact OR after a given time.

MILLIONS were made during th 1914 - 1918 period, millions MORE during the Second War, although mostly HE.

Many of them were marked KpZ: Krupp-patent Zunder: Krupp's patent Fuse. HUGE lawsuit after the war based on royalties: we cheated them. That's okay, they cheated us massively on Maxim Gun royalties. Only person who lost was Sir Hiram Maxim; he did all the work. Figures: Government NEVER loses.

If it were a dud which had been fired, there would be grooving from the rifling on the rotating band. There is none, so this one has never been through a gun. Most likely a war souvenir that some Gunner dewatted to take home when it was all over.

SUPER interesting.

Text Book of Ammunition - 1924 has diagrams and specs on the Number 80 fuse. You can download the entire book over at Milsurps dot com.
 
It looks like an 18- pounder shrapnel shell with one of the Mk 80 fuzes on it. From the picture, it looks as though the discs covering vent holes in the side of the fuze are blown out which means it has been fired and is now inert. The fuze should screw off and you can then look inside. A shrapnel shell will have a long tube about 1/2 inch in diameter running down almost the full length. An HE shell will not. A shrapnel shell is filled with lead balls and not much else and is, therefore, very heavy. It would have been painted black with a 3/4 inch wide red band around it just to the rear of the curved part of the front end.
 
WEIGH it.

If it is 18 pounds, then you have the whole thing, mixed 'bullets' (round balls) as well. If it is significantly lighter, then it has had part of its contents removed. They were called 18-pounders for a reason.

The 18-pdr QF (Quick-Firing) gun had its ammo made up s FIXED ammo: think of a great big .303 round. You have the SLUG.

GREAT souvenir!
 
some observations,

No 80 fuse, its a dual action, time (set with the rings) of impact. and it looks like it has been activated, you can see the cover from the vent is missing so the powder train has burnt.

now the shell itself has never been fired, the driving band has no groves in it from the rifling.

I'm assuming that it is not live and I would carefully set the fuse to safe and then remove it from the shell.

playing with unknown shells allways give me the willies
 
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