Help with Ross Markings

ebruder

ebruder

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Hi guys...

can you help me decipher some of these stock markings?

Any idea what 1 GBWY is? and also, what do the main stamps "B/83/519/1916" mean?

How about the Canadian Expeditionary Force marking?

Also, are the "nitro proof" stamps indicative of British service?

Thanks

EB
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Great markings. Let's see the rest of the rifle...

Here is my $.02 on the marking. The "B 83" could be a reference to the Queens Own Rifles (83rd Battalion CEF). The enclosed CEF markings would indicate the rifle did travel with the early Canadian divisions to at least England, if not France.

The proof marks would point to the rifle being sold out of service onto the civilian market in the UK.

As for the GBWY..no idea. Someone with a better knowledge of regimental abbreviations will hopefully stop by.

Now, again...let's see the rest of this rifle..Lots of lovers of Ross #### on this site.:D
 
Just a note on any gun not made in England and imported or sold there, under the front hand gaurd it should say stamped haphazardly (not of english make) with a nitro proof some where on the barrelled action. If anyone knows what the letter CRB stamped on the top front reciever ring means(ross M-10, Mk111) it would be helpful, thanks Dale in T-Bay
 
Dale, we are querying CRB all over the map right now, also PHAB 1 and PHAB 2, so I'm pretty sure we have already added GBWY to the list.

There are a couple of threads on these markings over at milsurps dot com also and, between there and here, we ARE making some headway on the PLY Rosses at least.


BIG problem is that so very MANY of our overseas Rosses went to Britain... and then almost all of THEM went to Russia, so we don't have the sampling base that we need. But we ARE making headway.

Your rifle is marked to the 15th Battalion, Canadian Expeditionary Force. LOT of history there!

Welcome aboard the Sherlock Holmes Express, both of you!
 
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This rifle has been worked over at Birmingham: BM stamp.

Likely the NOT ENGLISH MAKE will be stamped on the right side of the receiver ring, quite possibly rather faintly. I have several like that.

The DCP Dominion Proof stamp was only applied after the rifle was factory-tested to a standard at least equalling the British standards. It would have been accepted as allright for British service, but later proofs, especially when the rifle went into a new configuration (such as a sporter conversion) were required under British law before the rifle could be sold on the commercial market.

We could really use a full-length pic of this rifle, as well as a close-up of the right side of the receiver.
 
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