high end .22LR's vs mid range

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I'm planning on purchasing a .22LR in the near future. I've read CZ 453, Anschutz and Cooper all make fine rifles. Are the Anschutz and Cooper really worth an additional $1k+ compared to the 453? Does that $1k buy me additional accuracy and longevity, or am I just paying for a piece of walnut?

Are there any other brands I should be considering? I have about $2k for this project. I would rather put the money towards accuracy/barrel life/action then towards a nice piece of wood..

Matt
 
Matt
The CZs are good rifles. They have good consistency and the triggers if not to your liking can be made better with aftermarket kits.
Anschutz, especially the 54s and 1700 series are superb. Typically,very good triggers and the accuracy is renowned. Fit and finish is second to none.
Coopers, I understand are excellent also, but no experience.
If not abused, the barrel of any should last your lifetime unless you plan on a great deal of shooting.(200,000 rounds)
I have a Walther KK Silhouette with over 120,000 down the bore that still shoots under 1" for 10 shots at 100m.
If you are planning on scoping the rifle - you may want to go with the CZ and put a good scope on it. Plan on as much into the scope and mounts as the cost of the rifle. Nothing is as frustrating as having optics that compromise the performance of an accurate firearm. Then just find some ammunition that the rifle likes and shoot lots. All the best.
 
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I have a CZ452 and have read quite a bit on rimfire central about CZ's and their strengths and shortcomings. You get a really good rifle for $450-$600 with a CZ, but you are not getting perfection. Don't get me wrong, I'm really happy with my CZ and its accuracy but there are better rifles, just not for the money. Expect that with a CZ you will get a good, but not great trigger. The receiver's bolt channel is roughly finished, and the internals may need considerable use or polishing before they are really smooth. My gun has a plastic liner for the mag well, that cracked where it was screwed to the receiver. The trigger guard is made of bent sheet metal and crudely finished, especially on the edges. The trigger needs work or replacement to be really great. The barrel channel may be slightly warped and need sanding out to free float the barrel. The stock's action fitting may need work or bedding.

Still, I recommend the CZ if your budget is $500. Mine shoots under 0.5" at 50 yards with American Eagle 38 gr ammo. To me, its a superb hunting rifle, not a target gun. But you might want to look at Anschutz if your expectations are higher and so is your budget.
 
We have Anschutz rimfires for not much more than $1000 NIB. We also sell the Coopers and they are worth the money but they start around $1700.
 
Are you buying new or used? If you want different calibers, consider a Sako Quad.
 
The Anschuetz would serve you well given your budget. They dominate international smallbore competition and have good adjustable triggers.

That said, are you looking for a lightweight sporter or a more heavyweight rifle? Do you have a specific accuracy expectation? Will you be mostly shooting groups off a bench or field type shooting from different positions? The CZ is a good rifle for its price point and may be all you need.

A couple used rifles that may be worth looking at are the Winchester Model 52 or Model 75, if a heavy barrel target rifle is what you're looking for.
 
tjhaile said:
The Anschuetz would serve you well given your budget. They dominate international smallbore competition and have good adjustable triggers.

That said, are you looking for a lightweight sporter or a more heavyweight rifle? Do you have a specific accuracy expectation? Will you be mostly shooting groups off a bench or field type shooting from different positions? The CZ is a good rifle for its price point and may be all you need.

A couple used rifles that may be worth looking at are the Winchester Model 52 or Model 75, if a heavy barrel target rifle is what you're looking for.
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Basically I want to go to the range and blast off a few thousand rounds every year. I have no desire to compete or enter any competitions. But, I do want to shoot a lot and get better at it, from various positions. I think if I'm shooting less than 3/4" MOA @ 100yrds that would be just peachy. If the CZ or Browning can do that, then I see no reason for a high end .22LR

Matt
 
Under ¾moa at 100 yards is fairly optimistic with anything much less that a true target 22 LR rimfire rifle. I would say a CZ might get the odd group down to <1 moa with good ammo, but not consistently so. The Browning is basically in the same boat, but with the new ones with Anschutz roots, it may prove out to be a bit better. JMHO, Eagleye
 
I think you would be hard-pressed to make a CZ or Browning shoot 3/4 MOA for an average.
You might be pleasantly surprised at times with a few shots(3-4) perhaps going into a group like that but you have to consider that any FA's consistency is based on what it and its favourite fodder will do for an average. Your average with either of the above will probably be closer to 1.3-1.5 MOA for 5 and 10 shot groups.
 
sakoalberta look at his ads

buy an annie and leo scope for 2g

are you going to use this on the bench or standing,

what is the new going cost for a cooper trp3 for intro benchgun (needs trigger) or a annie 64sbr for about 1400 (like the cooper against that model annie)

once we know how you are going to use the firearm then we can better point you in the right direction

Jeff
 
Sakoalberta. Was looking at the CZ452 Varmint prices for my friend and I.

You price a CZ452 Varmint for $500 (plus taxes plus shipping) where another store in Calgary has them advertised for $470 (taxes in, plus shipping).
Can we get the same deal if we buy from you?

Thanks
 
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Jefferson said:
buy an annie and leo scope for 2g

Jeff
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I see a whole bunch of Anschutz just went up on the EE. I'm not an expert but the prices seem reasonable given what people have said here. Looks like for 2G's you could get the rifle and a really good scope and still have enough left for a case and a pile of ammo.
 
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