Hollowpoints for handguns

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Back in the 80's, they were illegal. Funny, I remember talking to a local cop at the time who told me (and showed me) the ammo he was carrying in his 357 revolver. Hollowpoints. He said that the department forbid their officers from using this ammo which was illegal at the time. He told me that the day he pulled his gun to sghoot, he wanted all the cards on his side.
So, are hollowpoints legal for use by Mr Joe Citizen? I personally favour Glazer Safety Slugs myself (for home defence ammo), but I wanna know what the general consensus is?
 
This was a blip in the law a few years ago. If you're going to ask a cop about firearms laws please ask one on this site. The CGN cops are the most informed about firearms laws.
Hollowpoint handgun ammo is legal, just not easy to get off the shelf and expensive.
-Shooting someone in self defence is legal
-Causing the death of someone you really believe might kill you is legal
-Having a tool to defend yourself is ILLEGAL without permission from the CFO

Is the CFO GOD?
 
While they are legal. They are not guaranteed to expand on impact or guarantee to incapacitate an attacker. Where you place your shots is more important than what you place there.

TDC
 
peter2772000 said:
Back in the 80's, they were illegal. Funny, I remember talking to a local cop at the time who told me (and showed me) the ammo he was carrying in his 357 revolver. Hollowpoints. He said that the department forbid their officers from using this ammo which was illegal at the time. He told me that the day he pulled his gun to sghoot, he wanted all the cards on his side.
So, are hollowpoints legal for use by Mr Joe Citizen? I personally favour Glazer Safety Slugs myself (for home defence ammo), but I wanna know what the general consensus is?
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Hmmmmmmm..... out in BC here in the 80's when the cops carried revolvers it was a S&W Model 10 in .38 Special. The issue ammo was hollow-point..............
 
prproulx said:
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-Causing the death of someone you really believe might kill you is legal

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That's a bit too vague. Your belief in their intent must not only be sincere, but must be judged "reasonable" by the courts. And "might kill" isn't a good way of putting it because it fails to describe another necessary condition, which is that the prospect is imminent, as in they are presently with you and actually doing something about it.

(Otherwise it could mean that if it is suggested that I might kill you in, oh, let's say August, 2011, for a reason and in circumstances that neither of us can imagine right now, and you would then be justified by self-defence in killing me this April to pre-empt that possibility. On the face of it, the suggestion that I might kill you is true and would remain so until either I died or until you died of any cause other than me killing you.)
 
prproulx said:
This was a blip in the law a few years ago. If you're going to ask a cop about firearms laws please ask one on this site. The CGN cops are the most informed about firearms laws.......
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Trust me, I don't ask police for advice on the law (unless it's something they're used to like speeding or parking). No disrespect intended, cops get bashed on too much for no reason, in my opinion.
What I said was that his department forbid the use of hollowpoints. And if everyone here is telling me that hollowpoints were legal for use in handguns back in the 80's, then I'm losing my mind. I was a permanent fixture at my buddies gunsmith shop back then, I coulda sworn they were illegal during that time.
In any case, the important thing is that they're legal now!
 
peter2772000 said:
And if everyone here is telling me that hollowpoints were legal for use in handguns back in the 80's, then I'm losing my mind.
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They are legal now, and work really well on bowling pins.

They have always been legal to possess and use. For a few years, the ministry that regulates explosives would not allow them to be imported as finished ammo (you could always import just the bullets and reload) which is the source of the 'illegal' rumours.
 
acrashb said:
They are legal now, and work really well on bowling pins.

They have always been legal to possess and use. For a few years, the ministry that regulates explosives would not allow them to be imported as finished ammo (you could always import just the bullets and reload) which is the source of the 'illegal' rumours.
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Further to that, the import of "Handgun" ammunition with hollowpoint bullets was not allowed except for police agencies. However, since 9mm, .38special, .357 Mag, .44 Mag, and .45 auto were also chambered in rifles, the ammo was always marginally available.
 
prproulx said:
-Causing the death of someone you really believe might kill you is legal
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I'll take a poke at this one too.

-Using a firearm to stop someone you really believe might kill you is legal

If stopping the person results in death, then so be it.
 
When the pins rise from the grave .... I'll be ready. Will you?

Power factor of about 200 and up, hollowpoints. 45ACP is a great compromise between speed and power. But 9mm works too.
 
The whole Hollow point ammo=evil was the media doing. They demonized it and called it armour piercing for the longest time, when in fact, hollow point projectiles have a lesser penetrating capability and are designed for two things:

- to mushroom on impact and be more effective at delivering a stopping blow
- to expand on impact thus preventing over penetration and injuring someone behind the person being shot.

Hollow point ammo is also known as "controlled expansion ammo".
 
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