Hollowpoints?

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I am confused. I have heard from so many people hollow points for handguns are illegal, some say they are legal as long as they are reloaded and not commercially produced. But no one can prove it. Can any one provide an answer to the question "Can I legally shoot reloaded hollowpoints in my handgun for target shooting?". But what i am looking for is solid evidence, in reference to a law or legislation in regard to it being either yay or nay.
 
willsey said:
I am confused. I have heard from so many people hollow points for handguns are illegal, some say they are legal as long as they are reloaded and not commercially produced. But no one can prove it. Can any one provide an answer to the question "Can I legally shoot reloaded hollowpoints in my handgun for target shooting?". But what i am looking for is solid evidence, in reference to a law or legislation in regard to it being either yay or nay.

short answer is : yes, you can load hollowpoints for target practice. and you can buy factory hollowpoints from plenty of fine retailers. it is legal.

so go ahead and order a case while someone with better knowledge digs up the legal part.

found it.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33921

scroll through the adobe file that CanAm posted and you'll see plenty of legal hollowpoints.
 
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hollow points are and always have been legal in handguns, reloads or not. The stupidity arose from the morons at that handle the explosives stuff and they had a stupid thing about importing them. that's all done away with now. Someone will post a link, I am sure, to the website with the info on it. If any dealers tell you they are illegal, reach across the counter and smack them.
 
I've had this argument with my boss...about the legalities of hollow point ammunition and buckshot. He (just like many others) was under the impression that such ammo could only be used by Law Enforcement.

I proved him wrong, now I'm trying to find the stuff I got from Customs and CFC that shows it in writing.
 
Found It!!!!

If you wan't to look at the whole thing go here...

http://ww w.asfc.gc.ca/E/pub/cm/d19-13-2/d19-13-2-06-e.html

PART 5
PROHIBITED AMMUNITION
Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 10

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1. Any cartridge that is capable of being discharged from a commonly available semi-automatic handgun or revolver and that is manufactured or assembled with a projectile that is designed, manufactured or altered so as to be capable of penetrating body armour, including KTW, THV and 5.7 × 28 mm P-90 cartridges.

2. Any projectile that is designed, manufactured or altered to ignite on impact, where the projectile is designed for use in or in conjunction with a cartridge and does not exceed 15 mm in diameter.

3. Any projectile that is designed, manufactured or altered so as to explode on impact, where the projectile is designed for use in or in conjunction with a cartridge and does not exceed 15 mm in diameter.

4. Any cartridge that is capable of being discharged from a shotgun and that contains projectiles known as "fléchettes" or any similar projectiles.
 
Luger9 said:
Found It!!!!

If you wan't to look at the whole thing go here...

http://ww w.asfc.gc.ca/E/pub/cm/d19-13-2/d19-13-2-06-e.html

PART 5
PROHIBITED AMMUNITION
Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 10

Back to top

1. Any cartridge that is capable of being discharged from a commonly available semi-automatic handgun or revolver and that is manufactured or assembled with a projectile that is designed, manufactured or altered so as to be capable of penetrating body armour, including KTW, THV and 5.7 × 28 mm P-90 cartridges.

2. Any projectile that is designed, manufactured or altered to ignite on impact, where the projectile is designed for use in or in conjunction with a cartridge and does not exceed 15 mm in diameter.

3. Any projectile that is designed, manufactured or altered so as to explode on impact, where the projectile is designed for use in or in conjunction with a cartridge and does not exceed 15 mm in diameter.

4. Any cartridge that is capable of being discharged from a shotgun and that contains projectiles known as "fléchettes" or any similar projectiles.


Well that clearly states that hollow point ammuntion is not prohibited.

The silly document that prohibited personal importation of hollow point ammuntion is here.

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pub/cm/d19-6-1/d19-6-1-e.html

With the exception of Christmas Crackers, which may be imported for either private use or sale, the following list of explosives in the quantities shown may be imported without an Explosives Importation Permit for private use only and not for sale.


Safety cartridges except hollow point handgun ammunition

Note: Hollow point handgun ammunition may be identified by a small hole drilled in the centre of the bullet tip. These are most likely to be found in 0.357 magnum, 0.38 special and 0.44 magnum calibres for pistols and revolvers. Packages may bear the words "hollow point" or "semi-jacketed hollow point" or the abbreviations HP or SJHP or similar markings.

The document that repealed that silly interpretation about hollow points being explosive is here.

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pub/cm/d19-13-2/d19-13-2-03-e.html

Note: Hollow point handgun ammunition restrictions have been dropped by Natural Resources Canada. Any person may now import hollow point handgun ammunition.

The U.S. regulations prohibiting the export of ammuntion are here though.

http://pmdtc.org/itar_index.htm
 
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Couple days ago some goof told me quite matter of factly that the FMJ mil-surp I bought for my M-305 is illegal, and goes on he's been around guns for decades and is some super hunter, and that .308 is a wimp round and on and on and on. He has a lot of firm opinions on a lot of topics though, most of which was just posturing to make him feel more important. Yup, he was one of "those guys". The type that didn't get enough hugs as a kid. :)
 
Kwattro said:
Couple days ago some goof told me quite matter of factly that the FMJ mil-surp I bought for my M-305 is illegal, and goes on he's been around guns for decades and is some super hunter, and that .308 is a wimp round and on and on and on. He has a lot of firm opinions on a lot of topics though, most of which was just posturing to make him feel more important. Yup, he was one of "those guys". The type that didn't get enough hugs as a kid. :)

Oh, come on! He can't be all that bad......;) :p
 
It's funny but some retailers still think it's illegal to sell hollow points handguns. Last year while shopping for some ammo at Lebarons, they had a box of .357 that some one had written on the box in pen " for rifles only". When I ask the clerk why that was written on the box, she said that hollowpoint were illegal for handguns. I laughed allowed and advised here that there is nothing and never was anything in the explosive act about hollow points being illegal to use in handguns, only import restrictions. Then I bought the box and advised her that it was going to be used in my S&W model 19 and to stop misinforming the public.

The next day I returned to the store with a copy of the Explosive Act for her and asked to to remove all of the nonsense writting off the .357 ammo, which she refused. So I've never gone back to Lebarons.
 
Are ALL hollow points for 'personal defense' purposes, or what? Pardon my ignorance, but is that why there's the disrepency?
 
mr00jimbo said:
Are ALL hollow points for 'personal defense' purposes, or what? Pardon my ignorance, but is that why there's the disrepency?

Hollow point give you a much wider wound channel and greater bullet expansion. Thus reducing the chance of the bullet exciting the animal. The are very good for hunting.

If you want to have some fun. Get a few unopened soda cans, give them a good shake(unopenedbeer cans are the best) and shoot a few with .22 solid points. Now do the same thing with a few .22LR hollow points too see the differance a hollow point makes. I would not recommend the beer cans to be used at a gun club though. Club rules won't allow alcoholic beverages on the property and oh yes, do it outdoors.
 
mr00jimbo said:
Are ALL hollow points for 'personal defense' purposes, or what? Pardon my ignorance, but is that why there's the disrepency?

Come up to POCO the first weekend of November. There is usually a pumpkin shoot! HP work great on them! I just got my hands on some 147 grain Golden Saber. Can't wait to see how they perform at the range. :p
 
happiness is a warm gun said:
If you want to have some fun. Get a few unopened soda cans, give them a good shake(unopenedbeer cans are the best) and shoot a few with .22 solid points. Now do the same thing with a few .22LR hollow points too see the differance a hollow point makes.

You sir, are a godless heathen...leave the poor defenceless golden beverages out of your sick little shooting games!:p ;)
 
justin1628 said:
Come up to POCO the first weekend of November. There is usually a pumpkin shoot! HP work great on them! I just got my hands on some 147 grain Golden Saber. Can't wait to see how they perform at the range. :p

I blasted pumpkins with all sorts of calibers and ammo last year...hands down winner, .223 45gr hollow points! Them gourds blew up real good!:D
 
happiness is a warm gun said:
Hollow point give you a much wider wound channel and greater bullet expansion. Thus reducing the chance of the bullet exciting the animal. The are very good for hunting.

If you want to have some fun. Get a few unopened soda cans, give them a good shake(unopenedbeer cans are the best) and shoot a few with .22 solid points. Now do the same thing with a few .22LR hollow points too see the differance a hollow point makes. I would not recommend the beer cans to be used at a gun club though. Club rules won't allow alcoholic beverages on the property and oh yes, do it outdoors.


Silly cheeky b@stard....why are you suggesting and encouraging the waste of perfectly good beer.

Gentlemen, save your plinking to those Coke Zero and diet softdrinks that taste like a battery acid/dish water cocktail.
 
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