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I'm looking for a holster for a full size P320 but I know almost nothing about holsters. So I have a few questions.

1. I want to put a TLR1-HL light on the pistol, but don't have one yet. If I buy a holster to fit the light, will it cause any issues to use it without the light?

2. I'd like to buy Camadian if possible, but will take other options under consideration if they're good quality. Suggestions?

3. Primary purpose is just range use to keep my hands free. This is not a duty pistol. Any features I may want or not want?

4. Do I need a different belt? I'd like some magazine holders as well.

5. What level of retention would you suggest for range use?
 
A Canadian source for holsters is solelycanadian . com
Some holsters use the light and gun to lock it in place but some don't, I have a Solely holster for my P320 and I can use it with or without a light but it does seem to be a bit more secure with the light on it.
If you are just using it at the range and not running around it will likely be fine but might be a good idea to email or call Solely and he can answer your questions.
I am able to use my regular belt with my holster
Hope this helps.
 
cbh560 said:
I'm looking for a holster for a full size P320 but I know almost nothing about holsters. So I have a few questions.

1. I want to put a TLR1-HL light on the pistol, but don't have one yet. If I buy a holster to fit the light, will it cause any issues to use it without the light?
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Some holsters may work with both (light and no light), but most won't.

2. I'd like to buy Canadian if possible, but will take other options under consideration if they're good quality. Suggestions?
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Raven, Dark Star, Keepers, J M Custom Kydex, Safariland, Blade-Tech.

3. Primary purpose is just range use to keep my hands free. This is not a duty pistol. Any features I may want or not want?
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I suggest that you consider:

primary retention only (meaning no extra straps, buttons, latches, levers, or lanyards);

covered trigger (meaning that the holster protects the trigger from any inadvertant manipulation;

dedicated fitment (meaning no 'will-fit'/'may-fit' holsters);

rigid construction (meaning no nylon, or fabric, or collapsable material); and

an unimpeded draw (meaning nothing that will interfere with a master grip from the holster, and nothing that will interfere with a master grip during the re-holster).

4. Do I need a different belt? I'd like some magazine holders as well.
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You might not "need" a different belt, but you'll want a purpose-made belt that is very rigid. If what you want was duty-oriented, you'd be looking at wider belts and accessories, but for carry/range/match use you'll probably want to choose from 1 1/4", 1 1/2", or 1 3/4". (Whichever you choose, you'll need to match belt loops, belt, holster, & pouches.) I think that it's safe to say that for carry/range/match use 1 1/2" is the most commonly-seen width (and it's what I use). You might choose a (two-belt) 'inner-outer belt' system, which is popular for IPSC and some duty use, a 'battle belt', or a (threaded through your belt loops) one-belt system, which is popular for carry, range use, and IDPA.

5. What level of retention would you suggest for range use?
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Level I. Some people feel it necessary to have Level II (or Level III, or Level IV), but I strongly suggest that you consider Level I.

Here are three examples of holsters that I'd recommend to you for your P320:

Perun
<https://rcsgear.com/perun-strongside-owb-holster>

Light-compatible Perun
<https://rcsgear.com/perun-lc-holster>

Range Competition OWB Holster
<https://www.jmcustomkydex.com/c/Range-Competition-Holsters.html>

Range Competition OWB Light-Bearing Holster
<https://www.jmcustomkydex.com/c/Range-Compeition-OWB-Light-Bearing-Holster.html>

Classic OWB Holster
<https://blade-tech.com/products/classic-owb-holster>
 
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Wendell said:
Some holsters may work with both (light and no light), but most won't.



Raven, Dark Star, Keepers, J M Custom Kydex, Safariland, Blade-Tech.



I suggest that you consider:

primary retention only (meaning no extra straps, buttons, latches, levers, or lanyards);

covered trigger (meaning that the holster protects the trigger from any inadvertant manipulation;

dedicated fitment (meaning no 'will-fit'/'may-fit' holsters);

rigid construction (meaning no nylon, or fabric, or collapsable material); and

an unimpeded draw (meaning nothing that will interfere with a master grip from the holster, and nothing that will interfere with a master grip during the re-holster).



You might not "need" a different belt, but you'll want a purpose-made belt that is very rigid. If what you want was duty-oriented, you'd be looking at wider belts and accessories, but for carry/range/match use you'll probably want to choose from 1 1/4", 1 1/2", or 1 3/4". (Whichever you choose, you'll need to match belt loops, belt, holster, & pouches.) I think that it's safe to say that for carry/range/match use 1 1/2" is the most commonly-seen width (and it's what I use). You might choose a (two-belt) 'inner-outer belt' system, which is popular for IPSC and some duty use, a 'battle belt', or a (threaded through your belt loops) one-belt system, which is popular for carry, range use, and IDPA.



Level I. Some people feel it necessary to have Level II (or Level III, or Level IV), but I strongly suggest that you consider Level I.

Here are three examples of holsters that I'd recommend to you for your P320:

Perun
<https://rcsgear.com/perun-strongside-owb-holster>

Light-compatible Perun
<https://rcsgear.com/perun-lc-holster>

Range Competition OWB Holster
<https://www.jmcustomkydex.com/c/Range-Competition-Holsters.html>

Range Competition OWB Light-Bearing Holster
<https://www.jmcustomkydex.com/c/Range-Compeition-OWB-Light-Bearing-Holster.html>

Classic OWB Holster
<https://blade-tech.com/products/classic-owb-holster>
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Thanks for the highly detailed response. Would it make a difference having a Wilson Combat grip module on the pistol? The one I have is the fell length rail underneath (long dust cover).
 
I have 4 holsters for the P320 with/without TLR-1, MD Charlton can get Blackhawk brand holsters which I prefer over Safariland. If you're not in a rush Grey Fox also has many types of holsters.
 
I ran a Serpa for duty with 3 different pistols and there's also different generations of them. Operator error is the reason for any shortcomings I've seen. The newer line (not Serpa) is also smoother than the gold standard Safariland that I currently run for duty.
 
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I ran a Serpa for duty with 3 different pistols and there's also different generations of them. Operator error is the reason for any shortcomings I've seen. The newer line (not Serpa) is also smoother than the gold standard Safariland that I currently run for duty.
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Well expect for their propencity to lock up in adverse enviroments

Shawn
 
Do you mean the Safariland locks up in adverse environments or Blackhawk L3D?
If you mean the Serpa line than sure treat anything poor enough and it will fail, disregard basic firearm safety rules and the saying do stupid things, win stupid prizes applies.
Most users will keep their gear in functional order and get a rep a week on a flat range. I highly doubt under these conditions anything adverse could occur. My reps with these would be in the thousands of days and again no issues by myself or X amount of other users. I'm not saying to buy Serpa, only that I see no issue with them unless you're dealing with the lowest common user.
 
johhny12gauge said:
Do you mean the Safariland locks up in adverse environments or Blackhawk L3D?
If you mean the Serpa line than sure treat anything poor enough and it will fail, disregard basic firearm safety rules and the saying do stupid things, win stupid prizes applies.
Most users will keep their gear in functional order and get a rep a week on a flat range. I highly doubt under these conditions anything adverse could occur. My reps with these would be in the thousands of days and again no issues by myself or X amount of other users. I'm not saying to buy Serpa, only that I see no issue with them unless you're dealing with the lowest common user.
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Blackhawk serpa

I have no experience with the l3d, but that is not what people mean when they say sherpa. This is what they are talking about:

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They tend to lock up in normal dirt/snow/mud conditions to the point you have to cut the holster off the gun

Shawn
 
That would have to be extreme conditions. I've had them in all of those conditions and none of that. As for the model that's the earliest Serpa, the later ones had your index finger run along the slide vs frame to activate the second release. Not the best design but also not an issue if basic firearm safety rules are applied. Perhaps I was lucky and only issued/purchased better Serpa models. Anyway I think the newer Blackhawk L3D line is solid and worth looking into. For retention Safariland seems to be the standard and I'm not a fan of the release system.
 
johhny12gauge said:
That would have to be extreme conditions. I've had them in all of those conditions and none of that. As for the model that's the earliest Serpa, the later ones had your index finger run along the slide vs frame to activate the second release. Not the best design but also not an issue if basic firearm safety rules are applied. Perhaps I was lucky and only issued/purchased better Serpa models. Anyway I think the newer Blackhawk L3D line is solid and worth looking into. For retention Safariland seems to be the standard and I'm not a fan of the release system.
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The OP said: "...purpose is just range use to keep my hands free. This is not a duty pistol..."

Anyone who is still unclear about the many (well-known) issues with the Blackhawk Serpa hasn't been paying attention.

 
No retention necessary ie no need for debate on Level 2 and 3 holsters. The Serpa is still in use today inside of Canada and everything can fail with a youtube video to back it up or internet validation as proof. I'm not a Serpa salesman, there are now better options. My 2 cents was that I ran it more than the majority and under care and safety had no issues with it or witnessed such by hundreds.

At this point it's probably best to head in the direction of no retention mid or low ride holsters, thigh straps and if all roads lead to IPSC vs IDPA.

To answer some of the OPs questions since I run P320s with a Streamlight HL without the use of the light a flashlight holster would be considered unsafe, they engage with the light to lock up and anything else could potentially get in there and affect things or cause movement. Run a flashlight holster with a flashlight.

Purely for range use no retention is fine. Less to go wrong.

You will need a different belt of greater size, most set ups run an inner belt and the holster/mag pouch attach to an outer belt and and you connect both with keepers for added security. There are other set ups but this method is fairly common. You could also go the battle belt route which I prefer. Youtube that term and see what you like more.

Think of what sport you may use this set up for so you buy once, cry once. If purely for range use than Gray Fox Strategic makes a Phoenix holster or Basilisk. For mag carriers Wyvern or Specter. Not the cheapest investment but they're Canadian and make good quality gear.
 
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We get it you like the sherpa, that does not make it a good holster. It is also not just the sherpa, the sig, fobus and various other copies are just as unsafe. The fact remains it is the only holster that is/was banned form most shooting schools.

As for retention without a light safariland will function and retain the the gun without the light on the als modles. They lock on the ejection port and via the muzzel

Shawn
 
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