Holster Retension level for IPSC?

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I'm not new to IPSC, but I'm not serious competition either. I just got a new holster, doing some troubleshooting and making adjustments; just looking for some input before I finalize anything.

My question is what level of 'draw resistance' are high level competitors working with?

In other words, do they require a significant tug in order to pull the gun out of the holster? Or is there no resistance at all, i.e. will the gun fall out if you flip the holster upside-down?

I also know that lots of competitors have 'locking levers' that lock the gun in the holster when off-stage, and then disengage them when they're about to start a stage. Are these 'locking levers' mandatory?

If a gun is only staying in a holster via gravity, will they be deemed unsafe by range officials?

Thanks
 
Put fully loaded mag in your gun, don't rack the slide, turn holster upside down, adjust so that gun doesn't fall out, that's it.
 
Put fully loaded mag in your gun, don't rack the slide, turn holster upside down, adjust so that gun doesn't fall out, that's it.

?????:confused::confused:

Ummmmm

there is no retention test for IPSC holsters anymore.

Heck some of them when they are unlocked are basically shelves for the gun to rest on.
 
Put fully loaded mag in your gun, don't rack the slide, turn holster upside down, adjust so that gun doesn't fall out, that's it.

Why?
Seriously there is no retention level requirement anymore. Once upon a time you could be required to do an 18" standing jump or a somersault to prove retention, but those rules have been gone for years.

The relevant rules are:

5.2.6. IPSC Handgun matches will not require the use of a particular type or
brand of holster. However, the Range Master may deem that a
competitor’s holster is unsafe and order that it be improved to his
satisfaction, failing which it must be withdrawn from the match.
5.2.7. Competitors must not be permitted to commence a course of fire wearing:
5.2.7.1. A shoulder holster or "tie-down" rig (visible or otherwise),
except as specified in Rule 5.2.8,
5.2.7.2. A holster with the heel of the butt of the handgun below the top
of the belt, except as specified in Rule 5.2.8,
5.2.7.3. A holster with the muzzle of the handgun pointing further than
1 meter from the competitor's feet while standing relaxed,
5.2.7.4. A holster which does not completely prevent access to, or
activation of, the trigger of the handgun while holstered.

and in case it falls out during a CoF:

10.5.3. If at any time during the course of fire, a competitor drops his firearm or
causes it to fall, loaded or not. Note that a competitor who, for any reason
during a course of fire, safely and intentionally places the firearm on the
ground or other stable object will not be disqualified provided:
10.5.3.1. The competitor maintains constant physical contact with the
firearm, until it is placed firmly and securely on the ground or
another stable object, and
10.5.3.2. The competitor remains within 1 meter of the firearm at all
times (except where the firearm is placed at a greater distance,
under the supervision of a Range Official, in order to comply
with a start position), and
10.5.3.3. The provisions of Rule 10.5.2 do not occur, and
10.5.3.4. The handgun is in the ready condition as specified in Section
8.1, or
10.5.3.5. A self-loading pistol has the magazine removed and the slide
locked open, or
10.5.3.6. A revolver has the cylinder open and empty.


So basically there are no rules regarding retention, as long as it meets the rules laid out in 5.2.6 the holster is GTG....and if it falls out during a CoF, you are going to be DQ'd. If it falls out any other time, you must get an RO to retrieve it and then you get to clean and check for any broken parts. The onus for retention is on the shooter, as long as you are comfortable performing any tasks laid out in a CoF without dropping it then its all good. If you find you are having to clean and replace parts on a frequent basis because the damn thing won't stay in there, and RO's are getting tired of retrieveing your gun...you might want to look after that.
I have seen quite a few shooters who have either unintentionally not adjusted their holster properly or have done so thinking they will get a quicker draw (you won't) lose their guns all too frequently.
 
I'm not new to IPSC, but I'm not serious competition either. I just got a new holster, doing some troubleshooting and making adjustments; just looking for some input before I finalize anything.

My question is what level of 'draw resistance' are high level competitors working with?

In other words, do they require a significant tug in order to pull the gun out of the holster? Or is there no resistance at all, i.e. will the gun fall out if you flip the holster upside-down?

I also know that lots of competitors have 'locking levers' that lock the gun in the holster when off-stage, and then disengage them when they're about to start a stage. Are these 'locking levers' mandatory?

If a gun is only staying in a holster via gravity, will they be deemed unsafe by range officials?

Thanks

Locking levels are for the competitors comfort they are not required, I've seen RO's ask for them to be applied but there is no rule requiring it.
 
Put fully loaded mag in your gun, don't rack the slide, turn holster upside down, adjust so that gun doesn't fall out, that's it.

all he is giving is a reasonable guideline. there is no retention requirement for ipsc, but it can be embarrasing when your gun hits the deck. or it will be a DQ when the wind blows and your gun hits the deck befoer you draw. just a thought.
 
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