Home defense/ Bean bag ammo

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Heres a thought, is it better to use non lethal ammo for home defense in canada, seeing as though the thought of home defense is taboo in here. Would it be better to just injure or incapacitate with a solid bean bag or rubber bullet shot to centre mass. This thought occured as I heard my neighbors alarm go off the other night and went to the window to see 3 people running up an ally way. I called the cops as did they.

Thoughts and ideas about this?
 
Tricky subject..... But I'm pretty sure even if you did use non lethal ammunition it would get spun around to and bite you and gun owners in the back side.

If you're going to pull the trigger make it count and make your story the only story.
 
Less than leathal rounds can still be lethal. Depending on the load out they still pack significant force. Improper target area selection can result in fatal injury. A bean bag round to the head, or a rubber bullet to the chest, especially at close range, can be devastating.

Just something to consider. Most people assume that because something is "less leathal" that it's safe. It's more "less likely but might be leathal if used wrong", but that doesn't flow when speaking.

As for your question, I have no answer for you. Just speaking about LL rounds.
 
If you harm somebody, while trying to protect yourself, he becomes the victim. And you'll be in fined, jailed, sued, or all three. This is the Canadian way.:rolleyes:
 
. Yes I know LL rounds can still kill but, just looking for other alternatives. It could have easily been our house the other night.
 
And to HickStick, do you even have yours, dont spin around the question when im looking for honest answers. I think its a good question given the circumstances, at the time i was in theman cave cleaning guns, what would you have done.
 
Something to consider, and I believe that prosecutors have brought it up in court, is that if you have "less lethal" ammunition it can only be for the purpose of causing harm to another person. If you have such ammo it could indicate a premeditated intent to use your firearms on another person.

I'm not saying that's what I think, but it is a tactic I could imagine being used against you.
 
You can get extended range rubber slugs, in my opinion at close range a shot to the head or chest would likely be fatal, the advantage of there use to me would be lack of penetration and very little risk of killing/injuring someone unintentionally. While some will argue that using a "less lethal" round may be viewed by police as proof that your life was not in immediate danger, there not called not lethal, just less likely to kill, and while the law may allow for self defence you are not required to kill, even if your life is in danger. The risk to others if I ever had to discharge a firearm to defend myself out weighs the risk to myself.
You can have less lethal ammo for a number reasons, namely animal defence.
 
I am under the impression that while the new laws allow you to defend yourself, planning for self defense is still illegal. Like keeping a gun under the pillow for intruders. I can see having the less lethal rounds close at hand being construed as 'planning to shoot someone'. Legally, you're probably better off with some skeet loads that just happened to be handy. Frankly, no matter what the circumstances are, if you shoot someone odds are you'll wind up in court. I'd still take it over the life of my family but maybe you should just leave some sporting goods 'lying around'. Louisville makes a heck of a bat.

Not a lawyer, just my opinion.
 
Even holding a thief/rapist at gunpoint will get you sued in this backwards country, I keep a sword by my bed.
It's highly unlikely that someone doing a B&E would be armed with much more than a knife unless they were specifically targeting you.
 
Gunusr said:
Even holding a thief/rapist at gunpoint will get you sued in this backwards country, I keep a sword by my bed.
It's highly unlikely that someone doing a B&E would be armed with much more than a knife unless they were specifically targeting you.
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Sorry wrong. A sword would not be looked at any differently than a gun, baseball bat etc.

A weapon is a weapon.
 
Stevebot-7 said:
Something to consider, and I believe that prosecutors have brought it up in court, is that if you have "less lethal" ammunition it can only be for the purpose of causing harm to another person. If you have such ammo it could indicate a premeditated intent to use your firearms on another person.

I'm not saying that's what I think, but it is a tactic I could imagine being used against you.
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A blowhard Crown might try to pass that B.S. off to a Judge but debunking that argument wouldn't require a $400/hr lawyer. Beanbag, rubber slugs, and bear bangers...are all marketed as LL wildlife protection....for those who are willing to give the bear a chance to run away before the lead slugs start flying at him.
 
StiffDrink said:
Yea those are all good ideas. I guess best option is some dog or bear spray
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I have heard that those wasp sprays available at retail that can fire 15'+ will knock the crap out of a person....might be worth having a can or two around...just in case of an infestation.
 
bringing a gun into play is telling the intruder "you need to kill me right now if you wish to survive this". MAKE SURE that is what you want to tell him before you do so.

do some research on home invasions... how many of them involve fatalities? probably not many.... so why esclate the situation into a deathmatch when batting practice will probably suffice, hurt your ears less, make less mess, not hit unintended targets, and be sooooo much easier to explain to a judge.
 
Stevebot-7 said:
....if you have "less lethal" ammunition it can only be for the purpose of causing harm to another person. If you have such ammo it could indicate a premeditated intent to use your firearms on another person....
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This, heard this argument many times before when other similar threads have started.
 
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