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LOL...you haven't shot too many 375s or 416s have you........smaller and lighter are not desireable traits.
With that said, how much weight saving do you really think a smaller case makes on rifles that are typically 9-12 pounds....a couple ounces? Marketing BS is all that is.
Actually, it's the barrel length that they are marketing these calibres on, not the case length. Apparently, they can get the same velocitties as the parents from a shorter barrel but again........how much difference does a couple hundred fps make in cartridges in this class. The only thing they have going for them is that they are new......enough reason for me to try one but there really is nothing new here but a name.
Whatever happened to the .370 Sako?
Rugers idea was to make a 375 (and now 416) affordable and available, in a nice package, and I think they succeeded.
375 H&H/.375 Weatherby and 416 Rigby/Remington ballistics were always good, well balanced performers, so they repackaged them into a modern, updated cartridge, chambered in rifles that would appeal to both bear hunters and kudu killers and I think they had a hit!
Rugers idea was to make a 375 (and now 416) affordable and available, in a nice package, and I think they succeeded.
375 H&H/.375 Weatherby and 416 Rigby/Remington ballistics were always good, well balanced performers, so they repackaged them into a modern, updated cartridge, chambered in rifles that would appeal to both bear hunters and kudu killers and I think they had a hit!
Why not just drill 375H&H and 416 Rigby holes in the chamber of a Ruger then?
Their idea was to sell new gun and ammo period. Not faulting them for that and I love new guns but let's not try to make it something it's not.......next thing guys will be trying to tell me there are advantages to the .338 Federal over the .30-06.....
Smaller and lighter may not be what everyone wants in a .375 or .416, but an 8 lb .375 Ruger, that delivers the same ballistics with a 20" barrel as a .375 H&H does with a 24" barrel sure makes more sense for a close quarters bear rifle a 10 lb H&H. Yes it will hit you, but is well within the tolerable limits for a practiced rifleman.
It really does come down to marketing and selling a new product generates excitement. This brings more customers in the door, which tends to lead to them buying other products as well. New and exciting chamberings make good business sense. Given the response to the .375 Ruger, I'd say Ruger and Hornady are doing a few things right to generate sales. A .416 certainly won't hurt, even if the market for such a gun is smaller.
So you're telling me that the Rugers deliver the same velocity with 4" less barrel. and that 4" of barrel weighs two pounds? Come on.
If it's light guns you're after, I've got a 6.5 pound .416 Rigby for you.
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I have chronographed the factory Hornady 270 grain .375 Ruger ammo @ 2720 FPS. That is from the 20" barrel. Handloads with 260 grain Accubond go 2712. I don't own a 24" barreled .375H&H, but from what I find on the internet, the Ruger is a bit quicker.
As far as the weight, my rifle is 9lbs 6 oz, rifle, scope, mounts, rings, sling, a full magazine and one up the spout.
As far as the weight, my rifle is 9lbs 6 oz, rifle, scope, mounts, rings, sling, a full magazine and one up the spout.
