Hornady die question

Ahsan Ahmed

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Hornady FL die set for 6.5x55 (Item # 546282) is labelled as 6.5x55/SCAN both on the box as well as the die.

Based on limited online research - common sense indicates that the die could be used to reload for 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser. I've emailed Hornady but haven't received a response yet.

Much appreciate if someone could lend more clarity on the subject.

Thanks,
 
According to: "The Illustrated Reference of Cartridge Dimensions", there are slight dimensional differences between the 6,5 X 55 Mauser and 6,5 X55 Scandinavian cartridge. Enough to be noticeable, when resized. Which was borne out in testing. Depending on individual rifle chamber dimensions. In my tests(I have die sets for both. Acquired a set of Skan dies, in 1995), I observed that in some instances, cases resized in the Scandinavian dies tended to be a bit harder to chamber. This appears to be related to headspace.
For example: 6,5 X 55 measurement from case rim to shoulder: 1.704". Skan: 1.710". Neck length: Mauser: .313". Skan: .339". The difference was quite noticeable, in a couple of instances.
However, loaded cartridges performed equally well. The Skan cartridges requiring a bit more force on the bolt handle to close...that's all. Some scuffing of the case rim was noticed. Case trimming generally solved that issue.
The cartridges may work perfectly well in yours and other rifles. I am simply relating my own personal experience.
To answer your question: Yes. Skan dies can be used to reload Mauser cartridges. But not perfectly(in my experience). My advice: Purchase a proper set of 6,55 X 55 Mauser dies.
 
Every time I think I'd like to get a 6.5 x 55 (Swede, let's say) I read another thread like this and decide I'm better off without it. Different loadings depending on which rifle you happen to have, now a different cartridge with the same numeric reference.. it's not particularly encouraging.
 
Every time I think I'd like to get a 6.5 x 55 (Swede, let's say) I read another thread like this and decide I'm better off without it. Different loadings depending on which rifle you happen to have, now a different cartridge with the same numeric reference.. it's not particularly encouraging.

LOL! It's all good!

One great advantage of the forum is that folks are able to share insights and opinions based on personal experiences too - understandably, those could well vary.

May not be entirely out of place to mention that factory ammo is also relatively easy to find for 6.5x55 SE should anyone not be keen to reload the cartridge and wish to keep things simple …..
 
Chilly807: Don't let a little thing like that discourage you from buying a rifle chambered in this neat little cartridge. The only rifle I've heard of chambered for the SKAN cartridge, was the Sauer 200. I have yet to run across one. All others I've owned/shot to date, were chambered in 6,5 Swedish Mauser. I don't believe the SKAN cartridge is widely used, even in Scandinavia.
Some Swedish Mauser rifles will chamber the slightly longer SKAN case. Just barely. Most I've tested though, have been tighter than I'd like, from a headspace and safety perspective. They will work, though. As long as you load the cartridges at or below, Swedish Mauser operating pressure levels.
Another factor to consider is that modern rifles chambered for the SKAN cartridge are capable of handling higher operating pressures than their Swedish Mauser counterparts. Thus, delivering higher velocity and enhanced performance, across all bullet weights. This I believe, was the driving force behind the development of the SKAN cartridge. So, when thinking about updating an already great cartridge, this isn't such a bad idea.
If you can find a Sauer or other rifle chambered for the SKAN cartridge, regular 6,5 SE brass can be easily fireformed/resized to fit the chamber. I believe Vihtavuori also offers load data for the SKAN cartridge. One caveat: I would not shoot cartridges loaded to SKAN pressure levels, in older military Swedish Mauser M94, M96 or M38 rifles. They were designed to operate at much lower pressure levels. Exceeding those could be very dangerous. In strong, modern rifles, this shouldn't be an issue.
Personally, I see no real advantage edge to going to the SKAN cartridge. In my view, the 6,5 Swede in original guise, is plenty capable and versatile, all on its own.

Al
 
Hitzy: Thank you for the update. This old dog likes to learn something new, every day. I have a set of Hornady SKAN dies, purchased around 25 years ago. They are dimensioned to size a slightly longer case than the standard Swedish Mauser 6.5 X 55. In light of this new info..... Ahsan Ahmed....please disregard my previous advice. Your SCAN dies may work fine, for resizing purposes, in your current Mauser rifles. Worth a try. Please do let us know how it turns out.

Al
 
See what I mean? The European who's-who of cartridges reads like the Rocky Horror Picture Show.. three different 6.5x55 cartridges is about 2 too many for me.
 
Also depends on what you are reloading for. The 1930's era Carcano-Cooeys are in 6.5 Mannlicher, as is a rebarrelled Krag-Jorgensen that I'm currently playing with. 6.5 Carcano ammunition sort of fits, but it doesn't do good things to the cases from what I've read. Also, Schultz and Larsen in Denmark rebarrelled Mauser Kar 98 K's in 6.5 Swedish, which work very well as target rifles.
 
Hitzy: Thank you for the update. This old dog likes to learn something new, every day. I have a set of Hornady SKAN dies, purchased around 25 years ago. They are dimensioned to size a slightly longer case than the standard Swedish Mauser 6.5 X 55. In light of this new info..... Ahsan Ahmed....please disregard my previous advice. Your SCAN dies may work fine, for resizing purposes, in your current Mauser rifles. Worth a try. Please do let us know how it turns out.

Al

I've been using the Hornady SCAN set for all my 6.5x55SE loading, they are your regular 6.5x55SE dies. Everything from an 1899 Oberndorf, to PH, BSA, S&L and a modern Howa, no issues.
 
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