Hornady LnL AP

thump_rrr said:
They do not come with micrometers.
They sell the micrometers separately and they are engraved with numbers on them just like the word micrometer would suggest.
It comes with large and small rotors.
Each rotor has an adjustable cylinder.
One for pistol and the other for rifle.
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Yes .. correct ... got my parts mixed up ... I have the micrometer on order right now ... maybe had a few too many :cheers: when I posted that ;)
 
thump_rrr said:
I have had 3 issues with my press and case feeder in the past 6 weeks of ownership.

First off my large primer slide would catch when it would go back to pick up a primer.
Everything was clean etc I had to grind the slide down to be exactly the thickness of the primer for it to work.
The large primer punch would also protrude above the sub-plate and the slider would come forward and hit it.
It hit it so many times that it actually chipped the front of the slider off.

I called Hornady customer service and they were very nice to deal with.
They shipped me out a new slider and punch and they just arrived this past Friday.
I haven't had a chance to try them out yet because I've been working on getting my .223 setup to work.

My major issue is with my .223 setup which is 2 problems in 1.
First of all when the cases are being pushed forward by the shuttle they tip forward not when trying to enter the shell plate but while they're being slid towards it.
Secondly the case being ejected after being processed at station 5 doesn't eject towards the bin but towards the shuttle crashing the incoming and outgoing cases together.
This means that an empty case will end up just about anywhere from below the sub plate to on top of the shell plate.
I have looked at my shell plate and even borrowed one that works flawlessly for a friend of mine and I'm still having trouble to the point where they're sending me a new sub plate to try.
It took me 45 minutes to make 100 .223 rounds with all the stoppages.


All most all of the issues I have experienced with mine have been operator error or miss adjusted timing and it gets even worse when you add another process like the bullet feeder to the mix...I have had some minor component failures or received some tools and stuff made out of spec from Hornady but this can be expected for mass produced tools...

I find the best way to make this go smooth is to be smooth on the handle stroke and have a solid bench this is a must, i have had lots of people over new to reloading and some not and I can sit down and load 100 rounds of anything in 5 min and when they try stuff is tipping and falling all the time jamming the press..once I tell them to slow down and go smooth they do eventually get the hang of it, this is developed after many rounds of reloading... :D

It depends what you are loading I have discovered that sometimes brass and brass prep is the key to loading .223 it can be fussy...If you have tight primer pockets and have to jam the primers in this could cause allot of the issue with stuff, also shaving brass off the primer pocket always ends up in the primer shuttle or stuck in the pin jamming it up, if I prep my brass I don't seem to have near the issues...Just a thought...:D
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when i got my H LNL with case feeder i had a lot of problems i screwed up the spring and a shell plate but after that i got to know the system but one thing that is not my fault is the case feeder. it jams up from the top while loading the tube and creates a stoppage so i rather not to use the case feeder. this is my reloading process list for mass amount 1000:
1.Tumble case 1000 (Lyman 2500 auto flow)
2.Lube/Resizing/deprime 1000 (Lyman case lube/Hornday LNL/RCBS Dies )
3.Swage primer pocket/trim case neck/clean primer pocket 1000 (Dillon super 650/Hornady case prep center)
4.Tumble case 1000 (Hornady Sonic cleaner)
5.Place primer (All at once) 1000 (Hornady LNL)
6.Powder/Bullet/Seat/Crimp (RCBS Dies/Lee crimp die)
i use my LNL just like a Single stage cuz there is too many stoppages

JOJOPINTO said:
thump_rrr said:
I have had 3 issues with my press and case feeder in the past 6 weeks of ownership.

First off my large primer slide would catch when it would go back to pick up a primer.
Everything was clean etc I had to grind the slide down to be exactly the thickness of the primer for it to work.
The large primer punch would also protrude above the sub-plate and the slider would come forward and hit it.
It hit it so many times that it actually chipped the front of the slider off.

I called Hornady customer service and they were very nice to deal with.
They shipped me out a new slider and punch and they just arrived this past Friday.
I haven't had a chance to try them out yet because I've been working on getting my .223 setup to work.

My major issue is with my .223 setup which is 2 problems in 1.
First of all when the cases are being pushed forward by the shuttle they tip forward not when trying to enter the shell plate but while they're being slid towards it.
Secondly the case being ejected after being processed at station 5 doesn't eject towards the bin but towards the shuttle crashing the incoming and outgoing cases together.
This means that an empty case will end up just about anywhere from below the sub plate to on top of the shell plate.
I have looked at my shell plate and even borrowed one that works flawlessly for a friend of mine and I'm still having trouble to the point where they're sending me a new sub plate to try.
It took me 45 minutes to make 100 .223 rounds with all the stoppages.


All most all of the issues I have experienced with mine have been operator error or miss adjusted timing and it gets even worse when you add another process like the bullet feeder to the mix...I have had some minor component failures or received some tools and stuff made out of spec from Hornady but this can be expected for mass produced tools...

I find the best way to make this go smooth is to be smooth on the handle stroke and have a solid bench this is a must, i have had lots of people over new to reloading and some not and I can sit down and load 100 rounds of anything in 5 min and when they try stuff is tipping and falling all the time jamming the press..once I tell them to slow down and go smooth they do eventually get the hang of it, this is developed after many rounds of reloading... :D

It depends what you are loading I have discovered that sometimes brass and brass prep is the key to loading .223 it can be fussy...If you have tight primer pockets and have to jam the primers in this could cause allot of the issue with stuff, also shaving brass off the primer pocket always ends up in the primer shuttle or stuck in the pin jamming it up, if I prep my brass I don't seem to have near the issues...Just a thought...:D
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deagle2008 said:
when i got my H LNL with case feeder i had a lot of problems i screwed up the spring and a shell plate but after that i got to know the system but one thing that is not my fault is the case feeder. it jams up from the top while loading the tube and creates a stoppage so i rather not to use the case feeder. this is my reloading process list for mass amount 1000:
1.Tumble case 1000 (Lyman 2500 auto flow)
2.Lube/Resizing/deprime 1000 (Lyman case lube/Hornday LNL/RCBS Dies )
3.Swage primer pocket/trim case neck/clean primer pocket 1000 (Dillon super 650/Hornady case prep center)
4.Tumble case 1000 (Hornady Sonic cleaner)
5.Place primer (All at once) 1000 (Hornady LNL)
6.Powder/Bullet/Seat/Crimp (RCBS Dies/Lee crimp die)
i use my LNL just like a Single stage cuz there is too many stoppages
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Which calibers are you having trouble with?

mine runs nearly flawlessly after a little adjustment.
 
JOJOPINTO said:
All most all of the issues I have experienced with mine have been operator error or miss adjusted timing and it gets even worse when you add another process like the bullet feeder to the mix...I have had some minor component failures or received some tools and stuff made out of spec from Hornady but this can be expected for mass produced tools...

I find the best way to make this go smooth is to be smooth on the handle stroke and have a solid bench this is a must, i have had lots of people over new to reloading and some not and I can sit down and load 100 rounds of anything in 5 min and when they try stuff is tipping and falling all the time jamming the press..once I tell them to slow down and go smooth they do eventually get the hang of it, this is developed after many rounds of reloading... :D

It depends what you are loading I have discovered that sometimes brass and brass prep is the key to loading .223 it can be fussy...If you have tight primer pockets and have to jam the primers in this could cause allot of the issue with stuff, also shaving brass off the primer pocket always ends up in the primer shuttle or stuck in the pin jamming it up, if I prep my brass I don't seem to have near the issues...Just a thought...:D
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My press is set up on a pedestal made of a 4" steel I beam with 1/2" top and bottom plates.
It is bolted to a ceramic floor over concrete using 4 5/8" concrete wedge anchors.

It can't be any more solid than it is.

I've run my cases through my friends LnL press with no problems whatsoever so I doubt that opereator error is the cause.

Priming with small primers is no problem whatsoever.

My primary problem is that the 223 cases leaving station 5 want to crash into the cases coming into station 1.
 
deagle2008 said:
,,,, but one thing that is not my fault is the case feeder. it jams up from the top while loading the tube and creates a stoppage so i rather not to use the case feeder.

Have you opened the gate all the way ?

Also, with mine there was a binding issue wherein the .223 cases would act like little wedges and bind between the disc slots and the sides of the hopper, causing a jamb. I used an 8" flat file to widen the slots in the disc slightly and that cured the problem completely. This doesn't seem like your problem, I realize but, if the cases aren't dropping into the tube freely as they should, maybe there is just sufficient binding going on to cause a release problem at the top of the tube. If you suspect this, get Hornady to send a free replacement disc so your azz is covered, then have at the disc you have with a file. They won't request you send it back so you can experiment at no cost.

Taking another shot in the dark, are your primers seated completely, ie slightly below flush with the head ? Even slightly protruding primers raise hell in general and would probably give rise to the teetering you're getting at stn 5. I take a majority of Reloaders to believe you've got OCD if you bother to clean primer pockets in pistol or .223 brass. OCD or not, I clean mine. If fouled pockets present no problem, fair enough, but when trouble shooting, I can't believe working through crap laden brass helps the process in any way, just my .02.
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