Hornady Lock-N-Load Magnum Sonic Cleaner Review [VERY PIC HEAVY]

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I have been looking at ultrasonic cleaners for some time now. I have been looking for one to clean brass as well as firearm parts. After scouring the internet for deals I decided to try the Hornady Lock-N-Load Magnum Ultrasonic Cleaner. The major selling points on this unit (at least for me) were: 3L tank, heated tank (32° F to 140° F) with its own on/off switch, timer (0 to 99 minutes) with its own on/off switch, and two transducers. The things I don’t like about this product are: it doesn't include a lifetime warranty (as many other Hornady devices carry one), how the cover sits with the basket in the tank and there is not a drain on the tank.

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Cover doesn't sit properly with the basket in place


After unboxing the unit I was eager to see if my parts would fit, and to my surprise my Ruger Mk III upper/ barrel assembly would not fit. I did not expect this, because Hornady’s web page states the tanks dimensions are “9.4in (238mm) x 5.5in (139mm) x 3.9in (99mm)” and my Ruger’s upper is 240mm long which means that it should fit diagonally in the cleaner. The only thing I didn’t account for was the basket being smaller because I couldn’t find any information on the baskets dimensions, so I assumed that the dimensions on Hornady’s website were that of the basket (because you cannot put items in the cleaner without being in the basket, according to Hornady). That is one major reason I am doing the review, so that any perspective buyers know as much about the cleaner as possible.

Here are the actual dimensions, (or as close as I could be with a measuring tape):

Exterior- 250mm x 145mm x 222mm (L x W x H)

Interior Dimensions- Top of the Tank- 241mm x 138mm (L x W) (256mm Diagonally)
Bottom of the Tank*- 190mm x 95mm (L x W) (205mm Diagonally)​
Tank Height- 100mm​

Basket Dimensions- 205mm x 106mm x 65mm (L x W x H) (210mm Diagonally)

Power Cord Max Length- 1750mm (Between Plug and Unit)

*Aprox. Dimensions, bottom edges/ corners are rounded (not sharp 90° angle) and made it hard to measure actual flat surface.

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Now on to how the unit actually worked. I was quite impressed with the cleanliness of the brass. There are two settings on this unit, temperature and time, and from my first test I believe that the more heat used will reduce the time needed to achieve a desired clean.

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Showing current fluid temp and set time, the little circles next to the displays light up blue when heat/ ultrasonic is on

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.45 ACP (applies to pic above and 3 below): Top- Dirty, Middle- Cleaned 10min @ 90° F, Bottom- Cleaned additional 20min @ 140° F

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.223 Rem (applies to pic above and 2 below): Top- Dirty, Bottom- Cleaned 10min @ 90° F & 20min @ 140° F

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9x19mm Nickel Plated (applies to pic above and 2 below): Left/Top- Dirty, Right/ Bottom- Cleaned 10min @ 90° F & 20min @ 140° F (nickel appeared to be faded/ slightly yellowed)

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One thing I noticed was some of the carbon was not removed but all it took was a simple wipe with paper towel or a q-tip (or a tumble would probably work as well). The only area I was not able to see results was in the primer pockets because I am relocating and my press isn't with me yet, but I expect they will clean up just as nice.

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The only thing I haven’t tested is the ultrasonic cleaner’s ability to clean gun parts, and after I head to the range I will update this post with the results form that. I plan to use Lyman’s gun parts cleaner (don’t use the brass cleaner, I have heard it will remove the finish from firearm parts). I decided on the Lyman cleaner because it is known to have a rust inhibitor in it and I could not find anything stating whether the Hornady gun cleaning solution did or didn’t.

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I hope this information is helpful for those looking to get a sonic cleaner.


Cheers,
Camaro2010
 
good review btw where did you purchase and how much .thanks

I got it on eBay for $240 USD shipped with a 32oz container of Hornady case cleaner. I don't know what shipping to Canada would be because I picked it up in US.

Camaro2010
 
UPDATE: Second Batch of Brass Cleaned

I cleaned my second batch of brass today and thought everyone would be interested in seeing the results and the process I tried this time.

The first step was counting and pre-washing 100 pieces of .38 Special brass (which was very dirty and tarnished).

100 Pieces of Brass
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After the pre-wash, 10 min @ 135°F in only water
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After the brass was dry I re-sized and de-primed it. Once this was done I put the brass back in the ultra sonic cleaner for 15 min @ 135°F with two cap-fulls of the Hornady case cleaning solution.

Brass after the first cleaning cycle, 15 min @ 135°F with cleaning solution
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As you can see the brass looks pretty good, there is only small deposits of carbon in the primer pocket and inside the case. However I would like to see better, so I put the brass back in for another cycle for 15 min @ 135°F and in the same water and cleaning solution as before.

Results after the second cleaning cycle, 15 min @ 135°F with cleaning solution
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As you can see the brass is almost brand new looking after the final wash. The only thing the brass lacks is the high shine you get from tumbling in media and polish. The real benefit to this is that it only took 40 minutes, 30 minutes if you skip the initial 10 minute wash (it really didn't do much, I just wanted any large pieces of dirt off the brass before I put it through my die). I hope you guys find this as interesting as I did, when I bought this unit I never expected it to do such a good job.



Camaro2010
 
Thanks for the effort!!! I mean it!!!! Very nice pix!!!

Nope, it'd not do Freedom Fries :rolleyes:

The thing is very good for cleaning a (used and dirty) HG!!! But NOT for cleaning brass. It'd clean brass very well to LOOK shiny, that's it.
Are you about looks or function?
 
Bought one of these hoping to clean 200 to 300 rifle cases a year. Not looking for supper shiny results just clean cases. I run it on the 50w setting with a mix of vineger and water then I rinse with water and baking soda then with water a couple times. Takes about half an hour. I love it. No basket. I just chuck the brass right in there. Also no warranty :) I also think it is not CSA approved!

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/110V-30W-50W...518?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e71b0b346

Results are very similar to what you see above. Hard to tell with pictures.


PS Also not very good for fries!
 
Bought one of these hoping to clean 200 to 300 rifle cases a year. Not looking for supper shiny results just clean cases. I run it on the 50w setting with a mix of vineger and water then I rinse with water and baking soda then with water a couple times. Takes about half an hour. I love it. No basket. I just chuck the brass right in there. Also no warranty :) I also think it is not CSA approved!

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/110V-30W-50W...518?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e71b0b346

Results are very similar to what you see above. Hard to tell with pictures.


PS Also not very good for fries!

Hey man, thought I'd reply here. I bought the middle size one, as I didn't think I'd need the magnum at all. I've already cleaned near 1000 brass and the results are beautiful.

Just a few notes, now I bought the Sonic Cleaner 2L, which does also have heat, so it may be different, but I'm pointing this out in case.
1) The manual advises NOT to use heat during brass cleaning as it may tarnish or damage brass. Just FYI. Check the Magnums manual.
2) The manual states that you are not to use it without the basket as no metal is supposed to contact the cleaners metal sides and bottom. Can't remember what the reasoning was. Again, check your manual to see if the Magnum is the same.
3) The solution that comes from Hornady is good for multiple cleanings. One load of solution has done about 25 - 30 minute cleanings for me. I've noted no loss of performance.

As well, I also bought the gun cleaning formula, and in mine I started stripping a 5900 series S+W down to the pin, and dropping the upper and parts into the tank. Came out cleaner than I've ever seen it. Every little crack. I had to hand rub a few spots where the gun normally dirty's up badly, but 2 or 3 rubs and it would all come off. So, I just dumped the whole lower in... Again, came out perfectly clean. I hope I was supposed to do this, but I couldn't find any reason on the net not to. After putting the gun together, if there weren't a few small scratches, you could pass it off as NIB.

I couldn't be happier with the machine.

C.
 
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