How about a Percision Hunting rig

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Not that I ever plan on shooting animals beyong my ability, it realy intresting watching some of these guys taking long range percision shots and killing game.

If you could what would you build, or put in your collection in a sporter rifle that could do this. Seem the 7mm mag is used, along with the 6.5x284 and infact they proved there accuracy potential at long range. I think a nice little 6.5x55 SE would be neat, to effective ranges in my world of say maximun 500 yards.

The other intresting thing if you do some research is alot of smaller game,, deer, sheep, are being dumped with target bullets which I am not sure of. The berger VLD, and A-max along with SMKs seem to be working at these extended ranges, I am sure for one reason,, To get them on target

What do you guys think of the new era and intrests in this long range hunting..

Just food for thought, but its becoming popular maybe to much so, funny they never show the bad shots at that range there must be a few..
 
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If you want to learn alot about LR hunting, visit www.longrangehunting.com

It's all there from rifles to chamberings to bullets to ways to put that bullet on target.

On the home page, I have a few articles to help you build and set up that rifle.

Whether it is 100yds or 800yds, putting the bullet where it needs to go is paramount. If you read through the posts, you will quickly see that these shooters are not spray and pray. The money invested in making this shoot possible is staggering.

Most have more tied up in optics then most hunters have in their entire hunting set up.

From the hunters I know on that board, I would feel more confident about their ability to engage game at 800yds then the 5rds a year hunters I see every Sept at the range.

Jerry
 
There is a certain satisfaction in making a successful long shot, and the problems that one needs to solve to realize that success are intimidating. My hope is that when someone has invested the time and money so that he is able solve those problems, and revel in his success, that he doesn't let modesty get in the way of telling the unenlightened just how big a deal it really is.

I once made the mistake of letting a local hunter shoot my target rifle that was pre-sighted for the 12" steel plates at 850 yards. The day was calm, the light was good, mirage was negligible, so it wasn't difficult shooting at the image in the 20X scope. After getting a couple of knock downs, he was convinced he could go forth and knock down caribou with equal ease at a half mile (give or take 400 yards) with his hunting rifle and Federal blue box ammo. What I should have done was set the scope back to its mechanical zero and let him work it out for himself.

The game fields are not the place to learn the craft of the long shot, rather this represents the post graduate work of the student who has achieved his masters degree and continues to work towards his doctorate.
 
With the emergence of shooters with tacti-cool weapons, it is inevitable to start to encounter them in the woods.
I have been long-range hunting caribou (700m to 1200m)for some years now with my Timberwolf and what a pleasure/challenge it is:cool:
 
Longrange Hunter

Had this one made up by Hart Barrels.
700 act, tubbs, system, Jewell trigger, 24" 1/9 twist
Mcmillan Stock
Total weight 6.6lbs nice balanced gun extreemly accurate under .2" 3 shot group while working load with H4831sc and 140gr Noslet BT and Partitions at 3165fps, eneded up using Magpro and 140gr at 3300fps.
Sorry I sold it this fall to member on site, have a shoulder problem and recoil was to stout for me.
Only shot one deer with this gun a 200lb buck at 420y I am sure this combo would work out to much farther expecialy with the Berger VLD bullets.

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I have real concerns over some of the long shots taken esp. on TV at game over 5-600 yds., how many animals are wounded, that they don't show, just to sell a rifle scope! No one likes long range shooting more then I, but I think we owe it to the game we hunt to limit our shots to manageable distances and leave the 1000 yd. shots to the target range. Doping the ever changing wind, all the way out to 1000yds. is quesswork and any wrong guess can result in a miss or worse, a wounded animal. For 1000yd. work we can set out wind flags at 100 yd. intervals if we want, get a good sandbag rest, squease slowly with our 1.5oz. jewel trigger.......you get the idea!
 
I've seen/heard hunters missing/wounding at 50 yards or less. Perhaps they shouldn't be in the woods. I spend a considerable amount of time shooting at various distances, so that I am confident when a "good" long range shot presents itself. Hence, the purchase of 338LM. It has the knockdown power for most ranges I might encounter big game. At any range, when the shot is not possible for a kill, I don't take it. I guess it is all about self-confidence and ethics.
 
Terry Perkins said:
I've seen/heard hunters missing/wounding at 50 yards or less. Perhaps they shouldn't be in the woods. I spend a considerable amount of time shooting at various distances, so that I am confident when a "good" long range shot presents itself. Hence, the purchase of 338LM. It has the knockdown power for most ranges I might encounter big game. At any range, when the shot is not possible for a kill, I don't take it. I guess it is all about self-confidence and ethics.
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Terry I agree 110%

Certainly there will be some idiots who will NOT walk away from a shot that is not 100% attainable, so yes there will be some animals wounded.
Just as there are a number of animals wounded every year by road hunters at close range with rifles and bow hunters at even closer ranges shooting arrows.
I hear this crap about long range hunting being unethical all the time and it makes me want to puke. :mad:
I have been hunting long range now for over 25 years, longest shot taken a moose at 1170 yards, 1 shot kill.
With having shot over 50 animals at distances in excess of 750 yards I have only 1 time had to take a second shot and it turned out unnecessary.

TV shows do bother me that they are promoting what is capable of being done, but too many morons will figure it is all gun and no skill.
Granted long range has become easier with technology, but practice not only shooting but dealing with the environmental changes is also paramount, in my experience most average hunters do not have the discipline nor the committment to partake in extreme long range hunting. This is growing more every year, but like any extreme sport there are 2 kinds of people, those who are capable becuase they practice all aspects regularly and the wannabes.
 
Great Post! I feel the same.
I know I am not capable of a 1000 yard cold bore shot from a hunting rig.
But getting comfortable at 500 and 600, and starting to hit cold bore targets at 1000.

I have shot bench rest at targets at 1000 but never with a hunting caliber and gun set up and in the field, I will be honest it took me 6 shots to hit a 45 gallon drum at 1000 when I first tried with a my 7mm Rum was low than high than to the left, than the wind was blowing gusts between 5-20km big difference, when not on a known Bench rest range. I finally got the read on the wind and elevation and nailed it a few times in a row.

Incline screwed me up as well on this target I was shooting down hill at 5-8 deg,(Guessing) and was shooting high at the MOA value, If memory serves me right I think I had it adjusted for 950 yards to get on target... Huge difference in the field.
I have since bought a good Range Finder with angle true distance.
 
JasonYuke said:
Great Post! I feel the same.
I know I am not capable of a 1000 yard cold bore shot from a hunting rig.
But getting comfortable at 500 and 600, and starting to hit cold bore targets at 1000.

I have shot bench rest at targets at 1000 but never with a hunting caliber and gun set up and in the field, I will be honest it took me 6 shots to hit a 45 gallon drum at 1000 when I first tried with a my 7mm Rum was low than high than to the left, than the wind was blowing gusts between 5-20km big difference, when not on a known Bench rest range. I finally got the read on the wind and elevation and nailed it a few times in a row.

Incline screwed me up as well on this target I was shooting down hill at 5-8 deg,(Guessing) and was shooting high at the MOA value, If memory serves me right I think I had it adjusted for 950 yards to get on target... Huge difference in the field.
I have since bought a good Range Finder with angle true distance.
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A Laser range finder is a great asset, a Kestrel pocket weather station is the next thing you may want to invest in. Knowing what the exact elevation, humidity, temperature etc where you are at the time of a shot being taken will help you make the turret adjustments more repeatably.
I always carry my Exbal program in the field (installed in my cell phone) so I can make small adjustments based on environmental changes.
1 still needs to spend the time in the field shooting and recording these variations year round (I store this in my phone as well) I find it helps to have a computer to agree with my results I find, before taking a shot, at long distance you normally have alot of time as game is not feeling threatened.
Doping the wind is all about range time and there are no real shortcuts there.
The more situations you can shoot in, the more you learn how to counteract them. Wind, mirage, shooting over varied terrain all have to be mastered, and trigger time is the only way to learn.

Knowing when your skill level is being significantly challenged is easy, then you don't risk taking the shot.:cool:
 
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