How accurate is the Browning Bar?

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I’ve been seeing good deals for you his rifle locally and wonder if the rifle can fulfill the role of a long-range rifle? How does it compare to lever action 308 like my savage 99? The calibers available are in 270, 30-06 and 308. Yes, I know that bolt action rifles are more accurate, however, semi-autos might disappear in the future so it could be my only chance.
 
LoaderMan said:
I’ve been seeing good deals for you his rifle locally and wonder if the rifle can fulfill the role of a long-range rifle? How does it compare to lever action 308 like my savage 99? The calibers available are in 270, 30-06 and 308. Yes, I know that bolt action rifles are more accurate, however, semi-autos might disappear in the future so it could be my only chance.
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A milsurp BAR? I don't think that is a thing in Canada.

A sporter BAR like the Mk.III? Excellent. My .270 has .243 recoil, weighs about the same as an "average" hunting rifle, has fed, fired, and ejected everything I've fed it, and puts Sako 156gr into 1" with regularity. Just over 1" with Federal Fusions. It cycles like lightning and is super reliable. More so than some of my bolt guns.
 
What is your experience with the tigger. I’ve only tried 1 in 30-06 & the trigger HAD to be in excess of 7 lbs. I thought the safety was engaged but no….. heaviest trigger I’ve ever tried.
 
LoaderMan said:
I’ve been seeing good deals for you his rifle locally and wonder if the rifle can fulfill the role of a long-range rifle? How does it compare to lever action 308 like my savage 99? The calibers available are in 270, 30-06 and 308. Yes, I know that bolt action rifles are more accurate, however, semi-autos might disappear in the future so it could be my only chance.
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LoaderMan said:
Well I decided to buy a Winchester 100 so the bar isn’t necessary.
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I assume you are interested in a Browning sporting rifle, not a main battle rifle.
A BAR is probably as accurate as most any other sporting rifle.

If you bought a Winchester Model 100, has it had the firing pin upgrade?
Does it function reliably?
Parts availability can be problematic, particularly for critical parts like the operating handle.
 
I've owned 4 Browning Bar Safari's and the 243 could regularly print sub .25" group. (I tried 8 different bullets)
The 270's best was a .21 3 shot group.(4 different bullets)
The 300wm is an older gun but it still can do an under .5" 3 shot group. (18 different bullets to achieve the best results.)
All at 100 yards.
 
tigrr said:
I've owned 4 Browning Bar Safari's and the 243 could regularly print sub .25" group. (I tried 8 different bullets)
The 270's best was a .21 3 shot group.(4 different bullets)
The 300wm is an older gun but it still can do an under .5" 3 shot group. (18 different bullets to achieve the best results.)
All at 100 yards.
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Ok, that is just exceptional.
 
I loaded for and hunted with a BAR (Mk 1) for many years, chambered in 270 Win. Exceptionally accurate and reliable. Given to a hunting friend's son on his joining the fold.
In good condition, they are worth having but parts are problematic if needed.
 
It handles fine. I had to change the magazine though since the jams on this rifle is due to magazine feeding issue, the rest is pretty robust. The stock is pretty delicate on the bolt side which I repaired it with super glue, it would be the first part to fail. My model already had the firing pin changed. If I had to design this, I would had made the action side of the stock in aluminum instead of wood. The issue becomes apparent due to the rifle’s retarded method of dissembly. I learned the hard way that you need to #### the rifle and put on the safety before removing the action out of the stock.
 
I hunted with a sporting Browning auto loader (3006) which I bought used in 1976. (Made in Belgium) Worked up a handload using 4064 and 165gr Hornady SP's. Would stay under an inch and a half at 100 yds every time I took it to the range. Mine had an exceptional trigger pull. My hunting days are over and it will be passed on to my Grand Daughters husband. An excellent hunting rifle.
 
tigrr said:
I've owned 4 Browning Bar Safari's and the 243 could regularly print sub .25" group. (I tried 8 different bullets)
The 270's best was a .21 3 shot group.(4 different bullets)
The 300wm is an older gun but it still can do an under .5" 3 shot group. (18 different bullets to achieve the best results.)
All at 100 yards.
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I've seen "precision" bolt guns struggle to make this grade. You my friend are an exceedingly accomplished marksman.
 
I've had a few. Would have to think hard to come up with the number. Every one was moa or better, some much better. IMO, excellent hunting rifle. To use one as a long range precision rifle is probably not its designed purpose. Too many moving parts and variables to come up with a reason it's .37" instead of 《.25". If it was hunting accuracy and speed, three well aimed shots in the time it takes a excellent bolt action shooter to get off two. That definitely has a value.
 
A few years back, FN was offering a BAR type sniper rifle, in Canada. I believe it's on the prohib list.

I don't know much about it, other than it could take 20 round box magazines and was chambered for 7.62Nato.

I was told, didn't bother to check, that is was being used aboard ships on the East Coast of Africa, to ward of Somali and other Pirates.

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I have a Browning BAR 30-06 made in 2019. The trigger is very smooth. It shoots sub moa for sure. It loves Sierra bullets. Best all around powder for 150-180 grains bullets is H4350. IMR4064 is also very accurate but velocity is lower. Browning ammo also shoots sub moa in this rifle as well as Winchester Silvertip.
 
Going back to the US M1918A1 BAR, I used to own a CA and shot it quite a bit. The gun fires from an open bolt and you have to compensate for this. Same story with the BREN on SA fire. The bipod helps, and I found it quite accurate.
 
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Going back to the US M1918A1 BAR, I used to own a CA and shot it quite a bit. The gun fires from an open bolt and you have to compensate for this. Same story with the BREN on SA fire. The bipod helps, and I found it quite accurate.
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Good friend used to have one of the Colt manufactured FA versions, I shot it a few times. Wasn't too hard to control and keep it on the target. It's pretty heavy for a shoulder arm. Only sporter BAR I owned was in 338 WM. Used it when I was working daily in bear country. It was accurate enough for the job at any distance I would shoot a bear at, but it wasn't LR accurate. Good hunting gun. I've seen them rebarrelled to 9.3x62 and 416 Taylor as well. - dan
 
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