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So I recently bought an M&P 40 and finally got it to the range today. This is my first handgun:)

I put about 300 rounds through it without a single problem.

I was grouping

6" at 10 yards
8" at 15 yards
18" at 20yards

I noticed my hands were shaking quite a bit the last 50 rds. Not sure if it was tired hand or sore fingers after loading so many mags.

How did I do for a first time, are those good groupings?
 
You're doing pretty well, I've seen first timers miss altogether at 15+ yards. Check out pistol-training dot com for training drills and practice you can do at home to improve your shooting. Also if possible, start closer - I start at 3 yards on occasion, shooting at very small targets, then 5 then 7. You'll notice the popular "FAST" test is shot at 7 yards. When you're comfortable shooting inside 10 yards, then move outside of 10 yards. If you get the chance to take a course, definitely do so - Phase Line Green offers a 2 day pistol course that builds your skills very quickly, regardless of experience. As a guideline try hitting a 3x5 file card at 3/5/7 yards, when you can do that on demand, you're in a good place to start getting serious.
 
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I have been struggling with this a bit myself, since the only people apparently willing to discuss groupings on the internet are sharpshooting cyborgs who punch the X off a target at 500 yards offhand, or experienced bullseye shooters who are genuinely super-talented but can't necessarily do much to help a new shooter.

For myself, this year I've been taking my pistol shooting more seriously and trying to improve. Towards this end, I've found the only real meaningful way to tell how well you're doing is to record your results and compare things over time. I now keep a 'shooting log' in a little day planner. Reference:

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Every time I go out and do some pistol work, at the end of each session I shoot a five-dot target (a dot in each corner plus a bullseye). That's my 'evaluation' target. Then, I go home, pull out a tape measure, and record by best group, worst group, and mean of my five groups. I fold up the targets and keep them in the book. Next time I go out, I do the same thing and compare. I throw out last week's evaluation targets. In four sessions, my mean groups have shrunk almost 1". That's pretty good for only four sessions, I think. Part of the improvement is from having a clearly-defined goal. It's helped me a lot, even if it does make me a huge nerd.

Sometimes I also record even more data, like how much I shot overall. I also write down anything I notice that's really obvious, like improvement with difference stances (I like Weaver better with my revolver for some reason!).

So, if you really want to improve, I highly recommend doing this, it's working for me. The only way you can really tell what's a 'good' grouping anyway is by comparing your own results. Some people are just naturally better than others. I freely admit to being an awful shot with everything I pick up, so for me to exclusively compare myself to others with more natural ability is just a shortcut to frustration. Validate results by improvement instead of measurement against other people. This isn't to say competition isn't useful (an fun), but for something you can really analyze, personal improvement is the most important benchmark for newer shooters like you and myself I think. I'll worry about outshooting other guys in competition later.

Also, starting with a .40 is pretty bold haha!
 
Sounds good for first pistol and first time. It takes alot of rounds to become proficient with a center-fire pistol. The .40 in general and in particular in lightweight poly guns like the M&P are snappy with 180s, so you did good indeed, especially if the groups are well centered and more vertical strung than horizontal. This is good combat pistol groups, and score better than strung horizontally, meaning you are pressing the trigger correctly straight back into the frame and not pushing/pulling left or right, a very good start to trigger control...Enjoy your .40, a co-worker just bought one and we are waiting for the transfer to try it. My son has the M&P 9 already, and you can check out my latest post concerning a magazine hiccup on this otherwise great pistol thus far. Cheers
 
That's a pretty decent start for sure. I just started working at an indoor gun range a few weeks back and have watched shooters miss the target completely at 7 yards. Like has been pointed out it'll take a whole lot of ammo and time to become really good with a pistol.
 
Thanks for the tips and info guys/gals.

Drspacejam - im also a silverdale member:) Good idea on tracking my results!

ill keep at it, and ill look around for some good courses.

Anyone have a secret place to buy cheap .40 ammo to practice with... ??
 
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