How big is too big? Too much gun?

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What do you figure is too much gun for deer?

I think Alberta Tactical rifle went a bit overboard with the 50 BMG :eek:

Of course, lesser cartridges can also mess up a lot of meat with the wrong bullet, or a bone hit.

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John Y Cannuck said:
What do you figure is too much gun for deer?

I think *** went a bit overboard with the 50 BMG :eek:

Of course, lesser cartridges can also mess up a lot of meat with the wrong bullet, or a bone hit.

Lets hear your story
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Use whatever is legal in your province, try and harvest your animal ethicly and have fun. Far too many people out there are trying to be ethics police by saying you are right or wrong by the calibre you shoot.

These posts are getting old, just the same old hunters arguing about the same old things with a new twist added every once and a while.

Give it up, dont we have something better we could be arguing about :D
 
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John Y Cannuck said:
What's the matter there, can't take a little criticizm?
I blew a shoulder all to bits this year with a lowly 308. Pretty much destroyed it.
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So what is your opinion on what is to much to use on deer. The post ATR made about shooting a deer with a 50 stated that there was no usefull meat wasted. Was it wrong to shoot the deer with such a calibre then? :confused:

I will admit, for me it might be a bit on the large side as far as calibre goes, but it was done legaly as far as I am concerned so who are we to say?

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John Y Cannuck said:
What's the matter there, can't take a little criticizm?
I blew a shoulder all to bits this year with a lowly 308. Pretty much destroyed it.
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Didn't blow that shoulder out using a short barrel Savage 99 in 308 did ya?
 
This is just a topic for debate like any other and J/C is not a troll by any description. You guys need to look at the quality of your own posts and rethink your position.
You are not adding to the content by your constant belittling of posts that ask a legitimate question.:mad:

If you don't agree with an opinion debate it... your not winning any arguments by posting flames and accusing respected members of trolling.:cool:

My take on the topic is in most cases for big game there is no such thing as too much gun! You are more likely to do over extensive meat damage with a bad bullet choice or a poorly placed shot.JBRO
 
BIGREDD said:
This is just a topic for debate like any other and J/C is not a troll by any description. You guys need to look at the quality of your own posts and rethink your position.
You are not adding to the content by your constant belittling of posts that ask a legitimate question.:mad:

If you don't agree with an opinion debate it... your not winning any arguments by posting flames and accusing respected members of trolling.:cool:

My take on the topic is in most cases for big game there is no such thing as too much gun! You are more likely to do over extensive meat damage with a bad bullet choice or a poorly placed shot.JBRO
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Yes, we did make a small joke. The last post I made was completely serious and I was being honest :D

So what is your opinion on what is to much to use on deer. The post ATR made about shooting a deer with a 50 stated that there was no usefull meat wasted. Was it wrong to shoot the deer with such a calibre then?

I will admit, for me it might be a bit on the large side as far as calibre goes, but it was done legaly as far as I am concerned so who are we to say?
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I have an opinion and I gave it, please dispute at you leasure :D
 
BIGREDD said:
This is just a topic for debate like any other and J/C is not a troll by any description. You guys need to look at the quality of your own posts and rethink your position.
You are not adding to the content by your constant belittling of posts that ask a legitimate question.:mad:

If you don't agree with an opinion debate it... your not winning any arguments by posting flames and accusing respected members of trolling.:cool:
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I see you brought your own "off topic" opinions to this thread as well, but I guess that's OK, right?

Humour is a part of normal conversation. It's not always, ALL SERIOUS. I didn't realize this was one of your "ALL SERIOUS" threads :rolleyes:

What's wrong, Santa take your sense of humour back to the North Pole for refurbishment?

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John Y Cannuck said:
What do you figure is too much gun for deer?
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I personally think that for my hunting here in the east, any magnum is too much for deer, but that's not to say I haven't used them. I've hunted deer here with mags all the way up to 375H&H. We just don't need the extra range and the deer aren't as big as the ones out west.

A 270 or 25/06 is plenty flat shooting for the hunting here and usually they are too much. I've never shot a deer over 100yds here.


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Off topic....?

Yup OK... you can call guys Trolls all you want but you get pissy when they defend themselves.
I repeat ...check your own posts before you throw around troll accusations.
It is completely uneccesary to post a unrelated and inflammatory picture that has no bearing on the thread.... unless YOU are trolling for a response?

give it a rest...
 
Note; I did NOT mention that savoured of all terms ' Magnum ' SC did :D

My own opinion, rests with bullet selection, to a point. :) be it flat, round, or sharp :)

I have used the 338WM on deer, and found, with the right bullet, it was quite capable of good clean kills without a big waste of meat.
The trouble I found, was that to achieve a good clean kill without a lot of wasted meat, most of the bullets energy will be expended in the ground on the offside, unless you download the cartridge, and use a lighter bullet. But what's the point:) in that?
So I went back to lesser cartridges. But this year, a Sierra Game King from a 308 (88 Winchester) hit bone. I picked up a chunk of meat that would fill a tea cup off the ground before I even found the deer. The exit was enormous, the shoulder was hamburger.
The 45-70, I've used some hot loads, some of you have even fired them. What it can do to a deer is awesome. So, I no longer use those hot loads. With standard loads, the 45-70 is one of the best at doing quick kills without wasting meat.
The plain old 270 Winchester with 150 grain Winchester silvertip factory loads, at 50 yards. Blew a hole so big in the side of a doe, that her organs were found laying on the ground, along the trail to her demise.

So, again, how much is too much?

There are a lot of variables. That 150 grain 270 load wouldn't have made such a mess at 150 yards or so ... would it?
 
No argument here...
We are limited to shotgun slugs for deer in some of the areas we hunt. Shotgun slugs are large meplat, low velocity projectiles with limited bullet selection compared to most rifle calibers. Even with Sabots using bonded and partition bullets the results are similar... big bullets make big holes and if you hit them poorly it makes a big mess!
 
We don't use shotguns much up our way. When we have, the results have been pretty much predictable.
A buck shot this year by one of our guys lost a pile of meat.
He was on a dry spell of some ten years, and that deer was gonna die. He kept feeding it rounds until every last twitch was gone.
Foster slugs at 50 feet can be very messy. So can buckshot.
 
My use of the 44-40 this year was inspiring. I plan to use it again.
It was only one deer, but the kill was quick, and the entry/holes were reasonable.
Of course, I had to wait until it was in range... Wouldn't want it to out run the slow old 215 grain slug would we.
 
Any caliber from .243 to .270 is a good deer round. I like to take my time and wait for the best opportunity before pulling the trigger. This is excitement in hunting to me.

Calibers over .270 is too much gun in I my opinion and can promote sloppy hunting habits. My $0.02.
 
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