how hard is it to find browning 1919 and M2 full parts kits?

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hi. i was wondering how hard it would be to find full parts kits for a browning 1919 or browning M2? receivers may be available but would be useless without parts to put it together with.
there must be some home builders out there that have tried to source out these parts and succeeded/failed.
im not ready to buy yet and don't want to waste anyone's time on the EE. so im posting this here... are they rarer then hens teeth?
thanks for any input in advance. cheers.
 
While I have never bought complete parts kits here in Canada (aside from various levels of deactivated guns) I have never found a problem with finding M1919 parts. They seem to be reasonably plentiful here. M2 parts are out there as well, but not in the same quantities as the M1919 stuff.

Newly manufactured plates and trunnion for the M2s are available in the US, however the trunnion alone will run about $1100 US, and then you have to get it exported. Still, with semi M2s running $10K or so, that would buy a lot of parts.

Re the 5 sided box, that is the RCMP lab's latest opinion to prevent a number of Cdn manufacturers from introducing more non restricted belt feds into the Cdn market, and it has not been tested in court. Any gunnut could have told you those guns were not all new, yet the "experts" claim to not have known for the last 15 years? Their current FRT entry on these is muddied at best. They claim the five sides constitute the receiver, but the right side plate constitutes the registerable firearm. Why not the top cover, or the feed guides, or the barrel jacket, or the spade grips?

Good luck with your project.
 
this is great news! i am leaving town for a week but im very excited to get back on cgn to talk more and maybe work something out.
have a good week guys and thanks for all the input.

cheers
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im trying to line up all the puzzle pieces for an M2 build. any one know if theres blue prints floating around on the web for a home built/TNW semi-auto M2 receiver? a hotrod build like an M2 sure isnt going to be an easy task.
 
stencollector said:
While I have never bought complete parts kits here in Canada (aside from various levels of deactivated guns) I have never found a problem with finding M1919 parts. They seem to be reasonably plentiful here. M2 parts are out there as well, but not in the same quantities as the M1919 stuff.

Newly manufactured plates and trunnion for the M2s are available in the US, however the trunnion alone will run about $1100 US, and then you have to get it exported. Still, with semi M2s running $10K or so, that would buy a lot of parts.

Re the 5 sided box, that is the RCMP lab's latest opinion to prevent a number of Cdn manufacturers from introducing more non restricted belt feds into the Cdn market, and it has not been tested in court. Any gunnut could have told you those guns were not all new, yet the "experts" claim to not have known for the last 15 years? Their current FRT entry on these is muddied at best. They claim the five sides constitute the receiver, but the right side plate constitutes the registerable firearm. Why not the top cover, or the feed guides, or the barrel jacket, or the spade grips?

Good luck with your project.
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There in lies the problem. In order to sell a gun, especially a newly manufactured one an FRT# is although not a legal requirement, saves ones bacon from litigation and lawyers fees.
With the FRT NOT being a law, there currently is no way to legally challenge the assorted new interpretations and edits of the SFSS/RCMP.
With the most recent whim of the SFSS now putting virtually ALL 1919 and M2s into the prohibited legal class due to this new 5 sides of the box rule many guys are not aware that their previously NON Restricted TNW or Ohio Ordnance made semi auto 1919 or M2 is now a prohibited firearm.

To make the other 4 sides of the box is possible, but EXPENSIVE, and they knew that going in, which is likely the rationale for their new re-interpretation of their own rules.

I have a TON of 1919 and M2 parts and the plan is to someday make the other 4 sides as we have a large number of right side plates and internals already. I also have access to about 500 NIB M2 HBs available at a reasonable price for the guts.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
There in lies the problem. In order to sell a gun, especially a newly manufactured one an FRT# is although not a legal requirement, saves ones bacon from litigation and lawyers fees.
With the FRT NOT being a law, there currently is no way to legally challenge the assorted new interpretations and edits of the SFSS/RCMP.
With the most recent whim of the SFSS now putting virtually ALL 1919 and M2s into the prohibited legal class due to this new 5 sides of the box rule many guys are not aware that their previously NON Restricted TNW or Ohio Ordnance made semi auto 1919 or M2 is now a prohibited firearm.

To make the other 4 sides of the box is possible, but EXPENSIVE, and they knew that going in, which is likely the rationale for their new re-interpretation of their own rules.

I have a TON of 1919 and M2 parts and the plan is to someday make the other 4 sides as we have a large number of right side plates and internals already. I also have access to about 500 NIB M2 HBs available at a reasonable price for the guts.
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This is where the regulation that was implemented by Blaney last summer comes in. The one year window for review has long expired, so the RCMP should not be able to make a change on existing guns. Merely making a new entry, as they did for the M2HB would seem to be their answer, but should apply only to new construction. I have heard of them applying it to an existing semi auto TNW that found it's way into the lab however.

The demand is there for M2HB even at the exorbitant price. Between the top, bottom, left sideplates, and trunnion, you are adding about $1800 US if the new parts were purchased from H&H. Not sure the market here would bear that additional cost for a hundred guns, but I think the market would support a dozen or so. That is, unless the RCMP declare the feedguides, the backplate, the charging assembly etc are also part of the receiver.
 
stencollector said:
The demand is there for M2HB even at the exorbitant price. Between the top, bottom, left sideplates, and trunnion, you are adding about $1800 US if the new parts were purchased from H&H. Not sure the market here would bear that additional cost for a hundred guns, but I think the market would support a dozen or so. That is, unless the RCMP declare the feedguides, the backplate, the charging assembly etc are also part of the receiver.
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I agree there is limited demand. Already being into both the 1919 and M2 projects for a couple hundred thousand dollars I am already in far enough to not quit trying.
Hopefully the SFSS/RCMP gets reigned in as a recent meeting with Minister Blaney eluded to. The question I had for him during our meeting was " so where do the folks who already have these guns in a NON restricted form now stand? being as they currently are in possession of a prohibited firearm without the knowledge that they are AND how is the government going to deal with this now that the registry is defunct?"
 
At this time the FRT still reflects them as being non-restricted (Including thwe TNW M3) with the one exception of the TNW/CAL crossbreed. However that does not stop the lab from claiming them as prohib upon inspection. Just because they can't change the FRT status will not stop them from applying the law as they see fit.
 
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