how important is an action, really.

[alberta tactical rifle]

As a rule, not many are........slow lock time, sloppy bolt...

Slower locktime yes, but this can be helped, alot, they will never be as fast as some others however. The bolt while in lock up should be as locked up as any other action, and as long as the lug contact is good should be true as any custom action will be. Needless to say from factory few have true and proper lug contact, that the customs do , many people think that the Mausers are inferior actions because the bolt moves around when its action is open. As you are undoubtedly aware these are built this way as military rifles weresubjected to some very brutal working conditions, I see Nesika has changed some of their line as the tolerances were TOO tight on some to afford reliability, without being cleaned after every shot. They sure are nice to work on though, not much machinework magic to make them shoot :mrgreen:

 

[JoeP's old business account]

Actually Neiska held back release on one of the new BR model - mod. 10 (I believe) due to minimal clearances and binding sensitivity. As far as I know the other models were problem free.......

You can bet when I'm slugging in and out of the mud, it won't be with a custom action....at least I hope not..... We can always turn the bolt down................ :lol: :lol:

 

[cycbb486]

If I could only have about 8 months back and taken the 1800.00 that I have just spent on my Rem 700 6BR and bought that Stolle Teddy in 6PPC with 3 barrels ( 2 never even seen a bullet) for 1700.00. It has been a fun and exciting project but the bottom line it is still a Rem 700. I could never recoup what I have put into it. It is a gun though that I will be happy with and never part with. :wink: :wink: :wink:

 

[Mystic Precision]

ATR, glad to see you built a shooter from a pig.

I have put together eight of these rifles with 4 in the CGN membership. So far, no one is calling me a liar. The fifth to leave in Nov. All have shot 1/2 MOA or better. I must be the luckiest guy on earth cause only a quality barrel with properly cut chamber was speced. No truing was ever done on these actions. Only the lugs were checked to ensure that they have some contact. They always did. However, all actions were checked to ensure a tight and repeatable lock up. That is the only thing that matters.

Well bedded, proper trigger, tuned ammo and guess what, small groups. No these are not BR quality rifles. They were never meant to be. But for the money invested (all were easily built under $1000), serious performance. Kind of like dropping a big block into a Dart. Still no Porsche but goes like stink for 1/4 the price.

yes, one of my Mausers did cause quite a stir at a 1km shoot. Was laughed all the way to a 10" group which placed in the top quarter of all the shooters.

Not bad, not bad at all.

Wait till someone asks how important barrels are? :shock:
Jerry

 

[JoeP's old business account]

Calvin........ hang in there. I'm sure someone will be selling a BR rig and/or a BR action one of these days. Either way it sounds like you have a nice rifle which I'm sure works well..... You know the old saying once you go custom, you never go back... , occassional 1/2 moa works but when the you have solid consistant "aggs" below 1/2 moa then your talking.... in competition, 1/4moa aggs are tough enough and if you can pull 3/8moa and less (on a non-BR gun) now we're talking 8) ...your on the road to the 1/4 moa or less :shock: ................usually only with lots of practice and a well mated rifle.......

Toss in a seven minute time intervel to squeeze 5 shots off (not 3 or 4) and your doing excellent with a .25 MOA agg :shock: . Now we need to remember that these are generally very specialized components.....that work well in group shooting. Talk about rambling on................. :wink:

 

[AP]

Sunray said in another thread

Try and find a copy of 'The Accurate Rifle' (Claymore Pub Corp ISBN: 1886681066) by Warren Page. My copy is in a box around here someplace. Your local public library or local gun shop may have it. If not Amazon has it.

.. I agree.. try to read his book ... much about what makes an action/barrel/bedding/ammunition work together properly. The only area he doesn't touch on are the merits/lack of same for multi lug (eg more than two locking lugs) designs. AP

 

[Leeper]

For my own rifles, whether target or hunting, I like to use actions which may require considerable work in modifications/improvements. This possibly due to a bit of a contrary nature but also because I figure any clown can put a premium barrel on a Stolle action and have a reasonable chance of success. Often, the same guy might have difficulty figureing out where to start if offered a Springfield as the basis for the rifle. (I must emphasize here that I do not consider all who put barrels on Stolle actions to be clowns! After all, I have done so myself!).
There is little doubt that the action used does influence the accuracy potential of the rifle. If one wants or needs to achieve the ultimate in precision, he had better start with a precision action. Regards, Bill.

 

[shortround]

Well that was enlightening once we got past the 710 thing . Likewise I always thought the actions purpose was to move the round into the barrel and hold it there while you touch off the trigger. I was never able to understand why there was so much difference in the money paid for a part of the rifle ( action ) whose purpose was to get the bullet into the barrel and the barrel was where you spent the money since it was the quality of the barrel not the action that gave you the repeat accuracy and as long as the action kept the cartridge held firmly in the chamber all was good . :?: