How many legit 49 non refurb SKS?
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KotKotofeich
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When you say non-refurb, do you mean completely untouched?
I've seen two levels of refurb - light, same as other SKS - re-arsenal mark and some buffing but all original parts and heavy - re-arsenal mark, replacing of parts including the stock and bbq paint.
I have both a light refurb in original blue and a wood stock, internal pin on the mag and a heavy refurb I'll be selling at some point (bbq paint, mag body drilled and welded)
I've seen two levels of refurb - light, same as other SKS - re-arsenal mark and some buffing but all original parts and heavy - re-arsenal mark, replacing of parts including the stock and bbq paint.
I have both a light refurb in original blue and a wood stock, internal pin on the mag and a heavy refurb I'll be selling at some point (bbq paint, mag body drilled and welded)
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I had 3 light refurbs at one point(original non sanded stocks and original blueing)
At the time I remember westrifle had 2 more on the website. Most of the ones they had were replaced stocks and reblued
Only problem with them were the crude mag pinning
At the time I remember westrifle had 2 more on the website. Most of the ones they had were replaced stocks and reblued
Only problem with them were the crude mag pinning
KotKotofeich
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Not always - I have one here with a "good" internal limiter on the follower arm.
When you browse US SKS forums, you will read many discussions about this. There is probably none which is truly untouched. I give you an example. Let's say there is a crate and it has never been touched and the arsenal is asked to check them. Upon opening of the crate, they remove the cosmoline and decide for whatever reason to replace the wooden stocks with a laminate one because it is stronger. The 1949 are rare but were not exactly popular since the barrel is not chrome lined. They may have been in service but often arsenal and/or refurb marks were not issued. Some say the best way is to check if the bayo bolt has been removed. But even then. You can replace that one too and make it look like new if you are careful. A good indication that the rifle is fairly non refurb is the bluing of the rear cover. If it has that lighter color in the middle section which looks as if a tape was place on it at some point, it is fairly non refurb. One thing I don't get is when people ask or pay big $$$ and then the mag is franken pinned. No pic of mag=ugly.
KotKotofeich
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No inspector stamp but the cartouche looks hand carved. No idea - could be original, could be replacement. Just happy the mag is not hacked...
(serials blurred, sorry, but they match)
Anyhow, I've never seen even as much as pictures of an unrefurb 1949
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I've got a 49 & I'll dig it up tomorrow. I know it has a FrakenF...'d mag. But I'll have to go over it... If I remember right? There was only one importer that didn't mess with the bottom of the mag well & welded the rod to the arm of the follower. There is a really good collector on this site, but for love nor money I can't remember his callsign?
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Those came from the early 2008 IZH import. They tastefully tack welded a small piece of barstock to the follower arm. They command a premium. Most were light refurbs, but some were non-refurbished and as-issued condition. I got one. Going into the grave with me.
KotKotofeich
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Indeed, I was going to say the limiter looks different from the limiters on the later years SKS in that it's a bar stock not a rod.
Mind sharing some pictures? Inspector stamp? Is the cartouche hand carved?
Mind sharing some pictures? Inspector stamp? Is the cartouche hand carved?
I believe you posted pics 7 or 8 years back and that's the other one I was referring too. Correct me if I'm wrong. Just as a reminder here was the pics of one of the Westrifle 49s that somebody leaked
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Looked at mine and it appears original (minus the pinned mag as mentioned before) & numbers matching. No re-stamped numbers on stock or electro penciled numbers on metal parts. Has the crucifix style blued 4 lobe spike bayonet. I believe the stock on that one is Arctic Birch? Everything looks stamped v.s. hand carved. My 53 IZH is the only one I have that doesn't have the "Franken F@$ked" mag. It's a shame the importers cheaped out on altering the capacity on most.
I don't quite understand. They have the same SN, so are you saying they scrubbed the ###X number and restamped?
This thread is about the Russian Tula 1949. The link provided by the other post refers to the Chinese version made in 1956 from the sold Russian tooling. I apologize if I didn't understand your question correctly. Here is a good, simplified vid of the difference between the start & finish of the Russian SKS. Albeit, 1958 seems to be the cutoff for production for the Russians.
Yes it's the same rifle. They filled the X's, stamped the cartouche and applied a heavy stain. Many from Westrifle and another dealer were known fakes, but back to my original post......I'm trying to ascertain if there was also some legit ones in the batch. I suspect there may have been.
I have a legit non refurb from the 2013 Ukrainian imports and I remember one other that had been posted on CGN around the same time.
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