Thanks for the advice guys. Looks like everyone is on the same page. Do you guys run a dry patch through before shooting if you run the oiled one after or does it matter?
for target shooting, the barrel is quite warm but for big game hunting, the only one that count is that first cold barrel shot
all rifle will react different but I have seen the first cold shot after cleaning to be one foot off ( at 400 yards) the others
so before I go for my trip, I clean the barrel(only carbon) and go back to shoot couple of shots and leave it