How much does my M14/M1A weigh?

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I posted this on the M14 forum, but figured some of you might find this useful.

It's very pleasant to see that over the last ~10 years the M14 has come a long way. It used to be that our options were limited to barrel profile, barrel length, twist rate and GI, wood or McMillan stocks. Now we have so many options and it came to my attention that we don't have a weight database, or at least not one that I know of, that's readily available all in one post on the forum.

A quote from XXIV corps:
XXIV Corps said:
From the U.S. Rifle 7.62MM, M14 and M14E2 Field Manual No. 23-8 dated 7 May 1965.

Weights in Pounds (approximate):

M14 rifle with full magazine and cleaning equipment, 11 1/4
M14 rifle with full magazine and cleaning equipment, selector, and bipod, 13
Empty magazine, 1/2
Full magazine (with ball ammunition), 1 1/2
Cleaning equipment, 2/3
M2 bipod, 1 3/4
M14E2 rifle with full magazine, 14 1/2
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I'd like to start collecting data on modern stock weights (SAGE, JAE, AG, Blackfeather, etc...) and barrelled actions with different profile barrels/lengths. I'll be searching the forum over the coming days to include as much as I can come up with. If anyone knows the weight of a particular action or stock, please list the details of what you have or know and how you weighed it (postage scale, stood on a scale with your rifle, etc...)

If you have the weight of a barreled action, please include the weight with the trigger group.

Different said:
Here are the weight results for some stocks I've weighed (metal hardware included):

stock assembly, fiberglass USGI 11686428 46.2 oz (2.8875 lbs.)
stock assembly, fiberglass USGI 11686428 49.0 oz (3.0625 lbs.)
stock assembly, fiberglass USGI 11686428 45.4 oz (2.8375 lbs.)
stock assembly, walnut USGI 7790702 41.8 oz (2.6125 lbs.)
stock assembly, walnut USGI 7790702 44.4 oz (2.775 lbs.)
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2336USMC said:
USGI wood stocks vary quite a bit in weight, due to the density of the individual wood blanks. If you want a light one, you might try taking a postal scale to a gunshow or someplace where there are a number of stocks to pick from.

Here are some stocks I have weighed, notice that some of the standard "skinny" stocks weigh as much as a Big Red, and that the GI fiberglass weighs more than some of the wood stocks...

Stocks, no buttplate or rear swivel
USGI walnut #1 34.3 oz Tru-oil
USGI walnut #2 33.7 oz finish stripped
USGI walnut #3 33.7 oz spray camo, glass bedded
USGI walnut #4 39.1 oz, oil finish
USGI NM birch, medium hvy dwg # 11010263, Sykes, routed for bedding 34.9 oz oil finish
USGI NM walnut, medium hvy dwg # 11010263, S.A., glass bedded 36.5 oz oil finish
USGI NM mystery wood, heavy contour dwg #9352638, Fajen 33.9 oz no finish
USGI NM walnut, heavy contour dwg #9352638, Fajen 41.4 oz no finish
USGI fiberglass 36.9 oz mil finish
USGI fiberglass #2 40.8 oz spray can camo
Hueygunner composite stock 37.4 oz green CARC finish
USGI M14 buttplate 8.2 oz with screws, 7.4 oz 210 gm w/o screws
USGI M1 buttplate 3.8 oz 109gm w/o screws
Rubber spacer 7790914 0.8 oz 22gm
USGI front ferrule 6g
USGI front sling swivel, no rivets 22g
USGI rear sling swivel 22g .8 oz


GI1
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McMillan fiberglass stock: Approx. 4 lbs. (Need reference) Approx. 4.5 lbs with buttplate and screws.


MODERN STOCK WEIGHTS

SAGE
• M14ALCS & HB: 5.1 lbs.
• M14ALCS/CV (Chassis with telescoping AR stock tube installed, no stock included): 3.5 lbs. With Magpul CTR Stock: 4.05 lbs.
• M14ALCS/CVFS (Fixed stock, no pistol grip): 5.1 lbs.
• M14ALCS/PMRI: 5.5 lbs.

JAE-100 G3: 4.5 lbs. to 6 lbs. depending on options

TROY: Approx 4.5 lbs. (need verification)

AG Composites: Approx 1.9 lbs (no metal parts). Approx 2.41 lbs. estimated with USGI buttplate installed.

Hueygunner Carbon/Graphite/Kevlar stock (no metal) 2.34 lbs. With buttplate: 2.85 lbs.

M14.CA Blackfeather (main chassis, rails, pistol grip and tube stock): 2.8 lbs.

Complete Rifles:
Complete standard USGI M14/M1A, empty, no magazine: ~9.2 lbs. (U.S. Rifle 7.62MM, M14 and M14E2 Field Manual) (Wikipedia)
SOCOM 16 with standard SAI Scout rail and empty 10-rd mag: 8.8lbs (SAI website)
SOCOM II with VLTOR cluster rail and empty 10-rd mag: 10 lbs. (SAI website)
M1A Scout Squad with standard SAI Scout rail and empty 10-rd mag: 8.8 lbs. (SAI website)
M1A standard with current production synthetic stock and empty 10-rd mag: 8.8 lbs. (SAI website)
M1A standard with current production walnut stock and empty 10-rd mag: 9.3 lbs. (SAI website)
M1A loaded with current production synthetic stock and empty 10-rd mag 9.3 lbs. (SAI website)
M1A loaded with current production walnut stock and empty 10-rd mag 9.8 lbs. (SAI website)
M1A National Match with current production walnut stock and empty 10-rd mag: 9.8 lbs. (SAI website)
M1A Super Match with current production walnut stock and empty 10-rd mag: 11.2 lbs. (SAI website)
M1A Super Match with McMillan FG stock and empty 10-rd mag: 12.2 lbs. (SAI website)
M21 Tactical Long Range with heavy walnut and empty 10-round mag: 11.6 lbs. (SAI website)

Privately Owned Rifles:
Super Match M1A with McMillan FG stock and heavy barrel and leather sling: 14.2 lbs. (Courtesy of Wolley)
Custom LRB M25 rear-lugged with Mcmillan stock, heavy Krieger barrel, bipod, sling and Nightforce loaded with 20 rounds of 175 SMKs: 20+ lbs. (courtesey of Lennyo3034)



Barrelled Actions:
Standard barrelled action with a GI barrel, handguard and trigger group to weigh approximately 6.1 lbs.

If someone can confirm this, please do so.

Barrel weights...

NoExpert said:
Krieger lists their DMR barrel at 2.8 pounds and their heavy barrel at 3.5 pounds.
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2336USMC said:
A HR chrome lined barrel made in 7-62 weighs 1lb 14.9oz

A USGI NM medium weight barrel made by 26978 (SAK/Saco/Maremont) in 5-83 weighs 2lb 12.2oz

MCORPS1
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USGI barrel: 1.93 lbs.
SAK Medium weight 22": 2.76 lbs.

Jon Wolfe WMMW 22": 3.25 lbs.

Kreiger-
Heavy 22": 3.5 lbs.
DMR 22": 2.8 lbs.

Thanks,
Tony.
 
This is a good idea, a database of weight is handy to have around when trying to build a specific rifle, I will do some weighing of some stalks and a rifle later today and post em up
 
USGI Overton Walnut Stock all metal included, No cleaning kit - 4 Lbs

Norinco M14 with USGI walnut stock also Overton, but not the same stock as above, dummy selector kit, cleaning kit, USGI solid fiberglass handguard, sadlak op rod spring guide, USGI op rod spring, Winchester USGI Op Rod, USGI flash suppressor with USGI front and rear sight, 2 shims for gas cylinder, grease - 9.5 Lbs, 10 lbs with standard 20 round mag pinned to 5 with 5 Norinco 7.62x51mm FMJ rounds

really when you get down to you could almost go over every part and even compare the USGI parts to Norc parts to current production US made parts, might have to tear the rifle down entirley.

hope this helps
 
I cut and pasted this from a thread back in 2012 ish
while I am not currently making/selling the ICR carbon fiber/fiberglass rifle stocks, there is lots of em out there.(in Canada)

Some stock weights that folks might find interesting. weighed on a digital hanging hook scale.... the kind meat cutters use
First thing to note is a metal m14 buttplate weighs 11 oz.

Usgi fiberglass, as issued, unmodified with sling loops and buttplate 2LBS 14oz.

Polytech plastic with it's metal hardware including buttplate 3LBS 3oz

Chinese mystery wood with metal hardware including buttplate 2LBS 11oz

Boyds type 1 with metal hardware and buttplate 2LBS 12oz

Promag Archangel 3LBS 13oz

Ingram Custom Rifleworks M14SA2 , standard forstock, bipod rail, M1A rubber buttpad and sling studs 3LBS 9oz

Ingram Custom Rifleworks M14SE2 with bipod rail, M14 buttplate and standard m14 sling loops 3LBS 11oz

Ingram Custom Rifleworks M14SCQB with commercial 6 position buttstock kit, Hogue rubber A2 grip and 12" aluminum picatinny rail 3LBS on the button.
 
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This should be made into a sticky, for data base reasons, as well as all the important info Different has accumulated over the years, maybe a sticky with sub sections, like specs on weight, and manufacturer specs n such, just a thought
 
My Blackfeather as pictured: 14lbs Unloaded
All Blackfeather weights and specs at M14.ca

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I am all about the Blackfeather. I think it looks and feels bad ass.

Specs:

Norinco M14
Blackfeather RS Stock
Vortex Diamondback scope 3-9x40
M14.ca CASM scope mount
Magpul AFG2 foregrip
Magpul K-Grip
Magpul rubber-butt-pad
Magpul ACS stock
Magpul MS2 sling
Grovtec "GT heavy duty push button swivel set" (GTSW-295)
Wolff recoil spring
ATI buffer tube assembly (commercial)
Blackfeather Scout Hand Guard (SHG)
M14.ca Light muzzle brake (LMB) and front sight
M14.ca Black Arrow (op rod spring guide)
Caldwell bipod

Painted all parkerized (grey) parts black with Arma-Coat to match Blackfeather colour
 
TonyBen said:
Thank you all for your input. Does anyone have the weight of a Juggernaut Tactical stock?

Tony.
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Juggernaut Tactical Rogue Generation 1 stock assembly - 96.0 ounces
Juggernaut Tactical Rogue Generation 2 stock assembly - 81.0 ounces

I have added most of the information regarding weights of M14 items in this thread to my spreadsheet. I did not add weights of individually configured rifles. If you would like a copy of my .xls file, send me an e-mail request. I delete your e-mail upon reply. leeace99@hotmail.com
 
Weight as pictured

Crazy Horse M21A5 EBR: 12 lb 14.2 oz.

Blackfeather CQB-16: 12 lb. 7.0 oz.

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optic, rings & spacer alone: 2 lb. 6.8 oz.
 
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