In an effort not to derail another thread I thought I'd post this here. I Have purchased a Savage 12 F-class and I am in the process of deciding on a scope. I have been considering a Sightron 8x32. I also looked at the 10x50, however now I find myself looking at higher end Nightforce's also with high magnification. I will mainly be punching paper at 300m as that is as far out as our range goes. I read here all the time that you should buy the best you can afford and I somewhat agree with that statement. I also think there is something to be said for having the right tool for the job. I think the 8x32 Sightron would be more than adequate for the task. Thoughts?
How much scope do I really need?
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ultimate_monkey
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glass clarity makes up for magnification all day every day... i run nice stuff (schmidt and bender) 5-25.. and honestly at 800-1000 i dont see much point in haveing more then 12-15x mag.. if punching tiny groups in paper is the only purpose for this rifle, then more is generally better if you can afford it. the high mag NF stuff, has a very little adjustment in the 36, 42x models, around 45-50 MOA if i recall off the top of my head, where as the 22x has 100..
the sightron is probably the best bang for buck scope on the market these days. the NF is better, but is it 1500$ better? depends on your eyes..
ill let you in on a little secret... put the top tier glass all beside each other, in a mid day, sunny environment, and most people wont see much difference,, where you get the benefit in glass is poor , low light conditions... there is a member or 2 on here that CLAIMS his sightron is better then his SB.. thats almost 4x the cost... but in poor low light the SB blows the sightron out of the water
the sightron is probably the best bang for buck scope on the market these days. the NF is better, but is it 1500$ better? depends on your eyes..
ill let you in on a little secret... put the top tier glass all beside each other, in a mid day, sunny environment, and most people wont see much difference,, where you get the benefit in glass is poor , low light conditions... there is a member or 2 on here that CLAIMS his sightron is better then his SB.. thats almost 4x the cost... but in poor low light the SB blows the sightron out of the water
Mystic Precision
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"Competing in LR F class, there is pretty much 3 brands you find on the line - Sightron, NF, and March. A few use S&B's. On a rare occasion, you find other brands like Leupold.
The optical difference between Sightron, NF and March at 1000yds isn't as great as their price suggests. In fact, it is very small. The March is certainly better but not by much.
From my personal experience rating them optically at the same mag ie 40X - MARCH, NF BR and Comp, Sightron SIII, NF NXS
I have not included the S&B 50X scope as I have spent very little time behind it and I didn't play around with the focus. Owners settings could have been different then mine so not conclusive
Jerry "
I posted this in another thread down this page.
You have already heard similar thoughts from other F class competitors. I know all about the "get what you pay for" adage and have stayed to this with my optics for most of my shooting career.
Search for thoughts and comments from other shooters around the world. Look at pics of events at F class matches. You will see what I have said above.
Buy what you can afford and what you BELIEVE in. That goes a long ways to having confidence that you made the right choice. Then test the scope and if it holds up to your needs, enjoy it.
The 'too good to be true' adage runs deep and most time, it is correct.
I compete with Sightron scopes cause it works BETTER for me then NF and MARCH. Cost is not the issue. Now, if a new family of scopes comes out that offers me BETTER, I would be a fool not to consider and I would.
Personally, I use a Custom Shop SIII10-50X60 on my FTR rifles - LRMOA reticle in a 1/8 min chassis. Love it and it does what I need for F class. I leave it at 35X and rarely change it regardless of the mirage levels.... and I have shot in real soupy air. For me, I want to see the mirage and the amount of mirage also tells me something. I will turn it up if air allows but rarely go over 40X - just too much chance to cross fire
Many shooters use and love the SIII 8-32. It works too. I just prefer more mag. It isn't a huge difference but I like the 10-50 better.
Ultimately, you have to get behind the rifle, look at the target under a range of conditions and decide for yourself.
The best way to do this is get out to your PRA intro days. Assuming you are near Homestead, get out there and meet some superb and highly talented shooters. You are going to see product from all the known brands. EVERY shooter has solid reasons why they chose that item.
Get behind them and see what works for you. As long as you are dealing with a known quality product, choose the one that fits YOU!!!
Jerry
The optical difference between Sightron, NF and March at 1000yds isn't as great as their price suggests. In fact, it is very small. The March is certainly better but not by much.
From my personal experience rating them optically at the same mag ie 40X - MARCH, NF BR and Comp, Sightron SIII, NF NXS
I have not included the S&B 50X scope as I have spent very little time behind it and I didn't play around with the focus. Owners settings could have been different then mine so not conclusive
Jerry "
I posted this in another thread down this page.
You have already heard similar thoughts from other F class competitors. I know all about the "get what you pay for" adage and have stayed to this with my optics for most of my shooting career.
Search for thoughts and comments from other shooters around the world. Look at pics of events at F class matches. You will see what I have said above.
Buy what you can afford and what you BELIEVE in. That goes a long ways to having confidence that you made the right choice. Then test the scope and if it holds up to your needs, enjoy it.
The 'too good to be true' adage runs deep and most time, it is correct.
I compete with Sightron scopes cause it works BETTER for me then NF and MARCH. Cost is not the issue. Now, if a new family of scopes comes out that offers me BETTER, I would be a fool not to consider and I would.
Personally, I use a Custom Shop SIII10-50X60 on my FTR rifles - LRMOA reticle in a 1/8 min chassis. Love it and it does what I need for F class. I leave it at 35X and rarely change it regardless of the mirage levels.... and I have shot in real soupy air. For me, I want to see the mirage and the amount of mirage also tells me something. I will turn it up if air allows but rarely go over 40X - just too much chance to cross fire
Many shooters use and love the SIII 8-32. It works too. I just prefer more mag. It isn't a huge difference but I like the 10-50 better.
Ultimately, you have to get behind the rifle, look at the target under a range of conditions and decide for yourself.
The best way to do this is get out to your PRA intro days. Assuming you are near Homestead, get out there and meet some superb and highly talented shooters. You are going to see product from all the known brands. EVERY shooter has solid reasons why they chose that item.
Get behind them and see what works for you. As long as you are dealing with a known quality product, choose the one that fits YOU!!!
Jerry
