how to accurise my li'l 22lr Savage64?

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I am really not happy with my Savage model 64 with composite stock. Here is what I have done to it so far:

- Action raised above stock so that barrel free floats now.

- Stock filled with resin and have two metal inserts in a butt, so rifle weigh something now

- Trigger lightened up to where I want it to be

- Action has two attachment ponts to stock now (it used to be just one bolt holding everything)


Much improved but still no good. I wonder if this is all I can get out of this model. For those who unfamiliar with this model: this is semi-auto where action attaches to barrel with one bracket and one screw. Every time one wants to clean rifle he has to take it apart and probably re-sight it after.

It has thin barrel. Is it possible to add some weight to barrel without having to buy a new one? I have heard about harmonics tuning weight - will it help?

Now another question, really silly one: what if I stiffen up barrel with carbon fiber glass? I have seen factory made ones "featherlight" barrels, I have some epoxy and can get carbon fiber. Anybody done that?

Plese do not recommend me visits to gunsmiths or buy a new rifle, I want to tinker with that rifle till it shoots right or goes to my "museum".
 
Action raised above stock so that barrel free floats now.

Might be easier to sand out the barrel channel to free float the barrel. Now you have an action that may not be sitting in the stock properly, unless you have bedded the action.
The sights are all part of the barreled action? Why would you have to re-sight it if you take it out of the stock? Again this is where a good action bedding job comes in.
Try different ammo, some .22's like one brand over another.
 
What are your expectations from this rifle?? One hole groups at 25 yds, 50 yds, 100 yds?? What kind of ammo are you using.

I also second the idea of bedding the action. I would also try tinkering with a bit of forend pressure to tune the harmonics a bit. That's the difficulty with rimfires. You can't tune the ammo to the rifle. You have to tune the rifle to the ammo. One way is to shoot a bunch of ammo and see which shoots best. Match ammo almost always shoots better than bulk stuff.

I have found that by torquing the action screws in 5-10 inch pound increments will dial in some rifles nicely.

Sometimes just a business card placed under the barrel at the forestock so that it's no longer free floated will dial some rifles right in.

I had a savage MarkII LV once and spent some time making sure it was free floated only to find out that a bit of forend pressure and accuracy increased by 75%.

Good luck with your project
 
thanx to all responces. I agree, free floating may not be a good thing after all - I will try wedging barrel a little bit.

I am trying to get groupings into some 1/2 inch at 25 yards. Right now its 1" shooting from benchrest which I believe is a bit too much.

BisonHd - match chumber - drop the link or tell me some more please. I will try to dig more info but would appreciate if you popularize what it is and what it does.

Now regarding sanding a barel channel - there is no channel as such, its composite (read "plastic") stock with barrel channel being hollow half tube with brackets. There was a ridge right after the attachment point and barrel was sitting on it, bending forestock and barrel by mere tightening a single attachment screw.

And I will sure try to re-crown. It doesn't look bad though, its almost new rifle after all. I have actually already tried to re-work crown on one of my oldest 22 with flathead screw, drill and lapping compound. Will shoot tomorrow and see if I didn't ruin a good rifle.
 
maynard said:
The sights are all part of the barreled action? Why would you have to re-sight it if you take it out of the stock?
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On this model one have to detach barrel from action to get bolt out to clean.
 
The crown should be sharp at the bore and burr free. If the barrel comes off, chuck it in a lathe and recrown it. The end of the barrel is the last part of the gun to touch the bullet when fired. Different crowns are just different ways to protect the end of the bore from damage. Even if you face it off square on the end might improve things.
Try different ammo. 1 inch at 25 yards off the bench would lead me to believe the barrel is destained to be a tomato stake or jack handle.:eek:
 
Well, I just got back from range. My at-home re-crowned Mossy got back into dime size groups at 25 meters which is probably all I can get out of that one.
 
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