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Hi All!

I need your help. I want to shoot and use tactical scope for playing with wind drift and bullet drop at different distance but I don't know where to start. Let me explain...

I plan to build a 223 but after reading the thread: Curiosity ? On wrong rifle purchase ,I realized that I'm not ready to get into precision reloading. Now I'm asking myself what is the best avenue and what can I expect from.

1-Is it a good idea to purchase a 22lr savage MII TR to learn tactical shooting curve seriously with that ?(Don't bother me to go max 100y with 22.lr)

2- With a Savave btcss or bvss 223 with simple constant reload (just good dies, right powder charge and OAL) can I expect to shoot apple up to 300y ? (if not which distance?)

Thank you for your help and I hope that your experience will light my choice...
 
There is a medium that could be called “practical precision reloading”. You don’t have to swear off precision reloading just because you don’t want to jump into it with both feet. Buy what you need to reload and learn to reload. Then see what you think you need to make your reloading process better. Slowly buy the things you need.

100 yards is not the furthest you can shoot with a 22LR. 200 or 250 would be closer to the end of the road but its possible to shoot further then that.

A rimfire is good to learn with because 250 yards is crazy far. Its fairly easy to find a safe place to shoot 250 yards. But with a .223 you will need 6 or 700 yards to see the same kind of drop and wind drift. Not many people have a place to safely shoot 700 yards.

With my Savage model 12 LRPV in .204 ruger I can put 5 shots inside something the size of a golf ball at 300 yards. I can’t always place the shot exactly where I want but that takes time to learn.
 
MightyPotty said:
do you reload your 204 ? I much it cost for 100 rnd?
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I reload for all my center fire rifles. I don't reload shotshells... yet.

Brass is about $30 per 100. You should expect over 10 reloads.

Bullets are about $25 per 100. (one time use) :p

Powder is about $30 per pound. 7000 grains per pound and 25gr (ish) per shot with the 204 = 280ish shots per pound.

Primers are about $5 per 100

So we will say $3 buys you 10 cases and 10 cases gives you 100 shots.

So $3 for cases + $25 for bullets + $11 for powder + $5 for primers = $44ish for 100 shots.
 
The cost of starting to reload is hard to get over. There are so many different tools that do so many different jobs.

Buying a reloading kit is a good idea. I bought a Lymen T-Mag II reloading kit. My girl friend reloads with the Crusher II press. For accuracy you should look at the Crusher press. The "O" frame design is extremely ridged. Also don't buy the Expert kit with the digital scale. You want the balance beam scale.
 
You won't save a penny by reloading. You'll just shoot two or three times as much for roughly the same money as factory ammo, and have a whole lot more fun.

To answer your original question, an accurate 22lr with a 4-12X or 5-15X scope is a lot of fun to shoot at 100-350yd. You will learn a lot about wind drift, bullet drop, and the limitations of most rimfire ammo. If your budget allows you can get into match ammo.

Accurate factory rifles such as the Savages you mentioned or Tikkas should be able to shoot at least MOA with most factory ammo, so a 3" apple at 300yd is probably a reasonable expectation, untill you throw in some wind. With a little experimenting on your reloads you should have a setup capable of .25 to .5 MOA.
 
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