How to measure yourself for length of pull

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I've fitted quite a few guns to my liking in the past, but I have a new side by side I really want to get right before I start fiddling. Is there a formula/pattern with which to measure in order to get a good idea on where to start for LOP? The shotgun has an English style stock for reference if this makes a difference, a CZ Bobwhite 28ga.
 
I've always checked LOP like this:

1. hold your arm at a 90 degree angle
2. place stock on your bicep
3. if your index finger's first joint is inline with the trigger plus or minus 1/2 inch then the LOP is pretty close to correct
 
Ever heard the term "rule of thumb"? Well it came from an old British reference term for measuring gun fit. In the past shotguns were mounted from the down gun position so fit was/is more important than the common mounted gun approach commomly used by modern clays shooters. Hears how it works. "A gunfitter would have you mount the gun and measure your ideal LOP by measureing the distance from the length of your nose to the first thumb nuckle at the guns wrist. The ideal distance would be an inch and 1/4 with 1 being acceptable". Nose length does not seem to matter. Works for me. Have someone do a measurement for you on a gun that you feel fits you --- You will be suprised that you will find the measurement will fall into then above dimentions. A guide to use whilest trying a shotgun in a gunshop is to place two fingers (the two next to the thumband & ahead of the fore nuckle) between the nose and the nuckle as previously described. On most men the width of these two fingers is 1 1/4".
The elbow method is highly inaccurate because of a great varience of length of mens forearms. IMHO
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There isn't one uniform method. Because of different shooting styles -- a head's up versus a stock crawler there really isn't one system that works for everyone.

The good news is that LOP isn't the most important measurement and one where you can have the widest variation. Drop and cast are far more important.

An LOP that's too short means your thumb will smack your nose under recoil. Too long and the gun feels awkward and is diffcult to mount. There's a lot of variation in between. Grouser's "rule of thumb" is a good reference as a minimum but I wouldn't worry if the distance is greater (it is on my guns) if the gun was comfortable and I could mount it smoothly.
 
I had this same dilema. I just handled a few guns at a gunsmith with different LOP's and he also had a slip on stock pad, in the end I went with what felt right. He also said go with a slightly shorter LOP if you're going to be hunting with heavier clothing.
 
Gun fit is important, and the only real way to get it right is by shooting the gun. If you do not have a gun fitter available to watch you shoot targets then the best way is to shoot at a patterning board.

The first thing you need is a consistent mount. You cannot determine proper fit if you are throwing the gun to different places on your shoulder all the time. Work on your gun mount technique until you are consistent.

The next thing you need are some strips of leather or similar material and some masking tape. Slip on pads of various lengths are helpful, but if you only have one it should be fairly thin. You can vary the effective length by placing bits of the leather in the end. While the "rule of thumb" described above will get you close, it only really works on guns with parallel stocks. On most guns, the drop at comb is less than the drop at heel, so moving your cheek backwards or forwards on the stock will alter the height of your eye relative to the rib. You must do this by altering the LOP, not by modifying your mount technique.

Take the gun, tape and leather to the patterning board. Draw a visible dot in the middle of the board. Step back 16 yards. Now comes the very hardest part. Without looking at the gun at all, stare at the dot on the target and in one smooth motion mount the gun and fire. The hard part is not looking at the gun, but it is very important. If you know you blew the mount, ignore the result and shoot again.

Now, look at the point of impact (centre of the pattern). If it is low, tape some leather to the comb to add some height. If it is high, add some length to the stock. Do this in small increments, an eighth of an inch on the stock will translate to as much as a foot on the target.

Keep at this process until the gun shoots where you are looking. Of course some conditions cannot be solved with the addition of length or comb height. Examples would be not enough cast, or excessive comb height. However, the Bobwhite is reasonable in these regards, so if you are somewhere close to average build you will be able to fit the gun without real work on the wood.

I am taller than most, and all I had to do was get the length right with a stock extension (offset to the right about 1/16th of an inch) in order to get my Bobwhite to shoot where I look. Your milage may vary.

Once this process is done, you can make more permanent alterations to the stock, such as gluing down strips of leather or making a proper stock extension instead of a slip on pad, or even taking down some wood if required.

There is a real benefit to going afield with a gun that you know fits you. You can concentrate on the game or target, rather than trying to accommodate the gun. Your confidence will be high. This process is a little tedious, but worth it.

Sharptail
 
I'm going to need to add length to the stock to fit my frame as well, I've been rough experimenting with just backing out the buttpad screws to stand the pad off the stock, and right around a 1/2"-3/4" further out seems to shoulder best and sight where I want it to. Will make up temporary spacers for the patterning, probably 1/4" increments, 1/4" - 1/2" - 3/4" - 1" or something to that effect.
 
Ever heard the term "rule of thumb"? Well it came from an old British reference term for measuring gun fit.

Sorry for getting off topic but I wqas always under the impression that the rule of thumb meant the size of the stick allowed to hit your wife with?
:redface: :confused:
 
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