How to prove to an officer a gun is non-restricted if/when the registry is scrapped
- Thread starter Jds
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In the good old days before the LGR, PAL's/FAC's, it was buyer beware. If the deal was too good to be true, in a bar, odds are it was stolen. If you got caught with a stolen firearm, it was up to you to prove you genuinely thought it was a legal sale. If your firearm was stolen, you reported it the same as you would anything else: make, model and serial number. if it turned up somewhere, and if the police bothered to check the serial number against stolen rifles, you got it back. Most likely, it got sold off at the police auction.
+1... that is how it should be
mmcintyre1220
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Lol I got pulled over a few months ago, when she seen a few large cases in the back seat she asked me if she could check to see that they were my firearms. I said ya go for it. She then found my pistol case that contained a beretta 92, Norinco 1911 she told me that they were prohibited to own. I provided her with my registration and ATT, while turning to take the paperwork I had in hand she pointed my beretta 92 right at my chest. After reaming her ass out about pointing a gun at me, she quickly apologized started shaking, put my gun down, got I her car and took off.
skneub
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I am of the opinion that if a police officer wants to check my vehicle or home.... get a warrant! Do not voluntarily expose yourself to liability. There are too many uneducated police officers or those who have an ax to grind. Remember you don't have to say a word to them (right to remain silent) and you don't have open things for them even if they have a warrant. Be polite but be passive.
Precisely. People think that if they don't volunteer information or give their permission to search, they'll be in more trouble. Its very often the opposite!
I'd rather have a cop who's pissed at me but can't do anything than one who's happy I cooperated and that ends up saying "it will help me in court".
LoL A Good One fer sure.
Reminds me the time I fell off the wagon.
I was so gooned that I figured I would take a bus home.
When I woke the next morning I was so hung, didnt know how I got home.
Was even more confused to find a bus parked out front.
Funny thing is I dont know how to drive a bus!
Really she pointed you gun at you ??
Now thats Pure Gold !
Happy Festavus for the Rest of us!
Rob
"Can and will be used AGAINST you in the court of law." Police will never testify FOR the defendant, ever.
A document like...... oh, I dunno...... a registration certificate? Might as well keep the registry if everyone's going to worry that much.
There are systems in place for police to check. There apparently will be PAL validity checks available with no record kept .
I'm guessing the police are going to need an "info packet" on what and how to check for this info too seeing as how the game will change a little.
Even though the different classes have been around since what, 1977 ish?
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Never once during those years when thousands of us worked to end the long gun registry did I imagine that on the cusp of victory there'd be whining and crying about some potential minor irritations of it finally being gone.
If you are that frightened about the prospect you can keep carrying your expired registration certificates with you to show an inquiring officer should the need arise.
If you are that frightened about the prospect you can keep carrying your expired registration certificates with you to show an inquiring officer should the need arise.
Exactly my point. The less you say, the better. Silence is golden. If a police officer has pulled your vehicle over it is because he believes you have committed some violation. He is required to tell you what that is. There is no such thing as a "routine check". If it is a moving violation give your driver's license and registration as required by law. Do not volunteer ANY information, especially if you are carrying firearms in the vehicle. He has no business asking you where you are going, what you are doing or anything else. Of course, he/she may try and if you open your mouth or allow the officer to search your car then you have VOLUNTARILY opened yourself to further scrutiny and even arrest. Just because a police officer carries a gun in no way means he/she has any interest in our hobby. Quite the opposite, many will do anything they can to remove them from civilian hands. If that means tricking you into showing them the contents of your car, which may include firearms, you can bet your a$$ they'll do that. They're just doing their thing but it will likely mean a minimum $5000 just to hire a lawyer to clear your name and retrieve your firearms - and that's if you have been squeeky clean!
I bet you've already seen this video, but I'll still post it for others to see. It pretty much sums it all up, from the mouths of both a lawyer and a police officer :
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Even though it talks about the fifth amendment in the united states, its still valid for us here in Canada, as we do have the same right to remain silent and not incriminate ourselves.
So yeah... when lawyers give their clients the advice of not saying anything to anyone, there's a very good reason for that.
