How to stop trophy hunting? Buy up all the licences. - BC hunting under attack.
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If its a free market, then anyone with the money can buy the license no?
I certainly don't see how its fraud? Its bull####. But not fraud.
I would love to hear GOABC's take on this.
I do see it as fraudulent.
The license is being purchased under the guise that the land will be used for commercial hunting (that's what the license is for), but in fact the full intent is precisely the opposite - it is to prevent commercial hunting.
Perhaps not "fraud" in the legal sense because perhaps there are no rules about land use in the regulations of these licenses. Nevertheless it is certainly fraudulent. It seems that some rules need to be created/modified to prevent this from happening.
How about: If you aren't a legitimate guide outfitter then you don't get to buy the license for a guide territory. Hard to believe this isn't already in the books.
Furthermore, any guide outfitter should be required to submit a yearly report of the land use, just like people with mining claims do.
If you aren't using the land for the purpose of the license then you lose your license. No money back.
That would dampen down illegitimate license applications a bit.
The license is being purchased under the guise that the land will be used for commercial hunting (that's what the license is for), but in fact the full intent is precisely the opposite - it is to prevent commercial hunting.
Perhaps not "fraud" in the legal sense because perhaps there are no rules about land use in the regulations of these licenses. Nevertheless it is certainly fraudulent. It seems that some rules need to be created/modified to prevent this from happening.
How about: If you aren't a legitimate guide outfitter then you don't get to buy the license for a guide territory. Hard to believe this isn't already in the books.
Furthermore, any guide outfitter should be required to submit a yearly report of the land use, just like people with mining claims do.
If you aren't using the land for the purpose of the license then you lose your license. No money back.
That would dampen down illegitimate license applications a bit.
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the $100,000 deposit needed to secure the commercial hunting tenure
So, any well heeled individual could do the same ? Wort it to me, if I won the lottery.
Grizz
It says deposit. I wonder what other fees are associated?
Sounds like someone needs to start a GoFundMe or something...
Let them buy them all.
As a BC Resident, this opens up opportunities for me that I would not be able to afford if I had to pay for an outfitter.
At some point, when actual animal counts start getting out of hand, either there will be a mandate to harvest, a mandate to have someone cull, or a mandate to relieve the holders of their area.
As a BC Resident, this opens up opportunities for me that I would not be able to afford if I had to pay for an outfitter.
At some point, when actual animal counts start getting out of hand, either there will be a mandate to harvest, a mandate to have someone cull, or a mandate to relieve the holders of their area.
They're clearly not hiding their motives though. Would it count as false pretenses considering that?
So, rather than some foreigner paying thousands of dollars per animal we should pay someone to cull them? No thanks. I prefer ideas that help the economy not cost tax payers money.
Easy, make the license holder pay the cost since they didn't fulfill their duty.
They aren't hiding it on their website, but even the act of applying for the license indicates an intent (to the government) to use it for commercial hunting purposes. That's what the license is for, so by applying they are falsely indicating an intent to use the land/license for commercial hunting. That's gotta be fraud.
Do they have a guide outfitter license in BC? If not, then why are they even allowed to apply?
This is so ####ed up.
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Your government is much happier to report that the area is being used for non consumptive tourism/eco tourism/wildlife photography than for trophy hunting, which has lately become a hated practice by hunters and non hunters alike.
Yes, they lose out on some money generated from license sales, but that's a drop in the bucket compared to the positive PR portrayed to voters.
They are pissing in the wind. With no griz hunting in BC anyway, what offshore hunters would want to go there? Even if there were a handful that would want to shoot a black bear, wolf or cougar, I have doubts that there are many guide outfitters with tenure in those areas that can afford to to keep their doors open now. I may be wrong about that, but as has been noted above, it doesn't stop any BC residents from hunting there if you can get there. I've worked in the fishing industry up and down those inlets and without boat access you can't get there.
In bc if a guide is underutilizing his area the available animals are supposed to be offered back to the resident hunters through an increase in available tags for our l.e.h draws. So let yhem buy and the resident hunters need to hold the government accountable.
maybe fear of the future govt you will have. greenies are maybe scared.
they cheated on the hunting reports as they used a registred guide to guide someone that was holding a lee enfield and people took pictures to show that it was a guiding operations in the days of grizzly opened. nowhere it says an outfitter needs to harvest or kill to keep the license ....
hunters need to be organized as the antis are ...
they cheated on the hunting reports as they used a registred guide to guide someone that was holding a lee enfield and people took pictures to show that it was a guiding operations in the days of grizzly opened. nowhere it says an outfitter needs to harvest or kill to keep the license ....
hunters need to be organized as the antis are ...
Its not the license sales thats the biggest economic impact. Its all the money that foreign hunters spend while here - Guiding services, lodging before/after, transportation, etc all contribute to the BC economy. Thats money that would otherwise be going to a private individuals paycheck, not government coffers.
