"hunting" in high fenced areas..... or what the "antis" see....
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........Stubble has it right. To each their own, if a landowner has a game farm and wants to let people come and shoot an animal for a fee, thats his perogative i guess. Not my bag and i am not a fan of it.
..........I have had numerous offers to go to Prince Albert when a landowner is culling his elk and buffalo herd. 250.00 for an elk and 500.00 for a buffalo. He shows you which animal you can kill and you cart it off and butcher it yourself. Kinda like shopping at IGA but you do the killin and cleanin.
........had a buddy go and kill a buffalo with his bow there. I have no interest.
..........I have had numerous offers to go to Prince Albert when a landowner is culling his elk and buffalo herd. 250.00 for an elk and 500.00 for a buffalo. He shows you which animal you can kill and you cart it off and butcher it yourself. Kinda like shopping at IGA but you do the killin and cleanin.
........had a buddy go and kill a buffalo with his bow there. I have no interest.
So we are talking about the difference between harvesting game and hunting game. There are places down south where someone gets out of their car, puts on a bunch of camo, walks 100 yds to a tree stand, turns on a corn feeder and waits 5 mins. for the tame deer to come to him, then picks and shoots the one he wants. Is that hunting? Not to my mind.
To each his own
As for domestic animal shooting ( that is what it is regardless of species) please don't call it hunting. If shooting at fish in a barrel is your thing then so be it. My problem is when those who have wildlife as domestic animals don't follow regulations they bring in disease. Chronic wasting disease in Sask. is a perfect example. To my knowledge it was started by some so and so that brought in an infected animal from the states. TB will probably be next.
As for domestic animal shooting ( that is what it is regardless of species) please don't call it hunting. If shooting at fish in a barrel is your thing then so be it. My problem is when those who have wildlife as domestic animals don't follow regulations they bring in disease. Chronic wasting disease in Sask. is a perfect example. To my knowledge it was started by some so and so that brought in an infected animal from the states. TB will probably be next.
How big does an are need to be to qualify as hunting ?
Drugged animals are a no-no as are some other things in that video, but how big does an area need to be to qualify as hunting....
Wild boars in 10 acres is not a fish in the barrel type of day....
Drugged animals are a no-no as are some other things in that video, but how big does an area need to be to qualify as hunting....
Wild boars in 10 acres is not a fish in the barrel type of day....
I put quotes around the word hunting, as per suggestions.
I wasn't annoyed but the harvesting "wild" animals in high fenced areas as much as by the tranquilizing practice and the soft tipped arrow <<< I got it!!!>>> what in the world was that?
I know it's possible to edit these things, but stil.....
I wasn't annoyed but the harvesting "wild" animals in high fenced areas as much as by the tranquilizing practice and the soft tipped arrow <<< I got it!!!>>> what in the world was that?
I know it's possible to edit these things, but stil.....
If they can't clear a fence
If the animal cannot get through, under, or over the fence it is canned. Hunting is for animals born wild, living wild, and with the ability to run wild.Even if it is in a 10,000 acre plot it isn't hunting. Just my oppinion but I'd rather eat KD than an animal taken from a canned hunt.
If the animal cannot get through, under, or over the fence it is canned. Hunting is for animals born wild, living wild, and with the ability to run wild.Even if it is in a 10,000 acre plot it isn't hunting. Just my oppinion but I'd rather eat KD than an animal taken from a canned hunt.
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hmmm...lets shoot a drugged deer with a blunt tipped arrow
these are the people that need to get beat to death for being so ####ing retarded wouldnt it be awesome if their bs plans backfired and a big buck ended up killin one of the useless mofos?
im not a tree hugging hippy but i do believe in dispatching an animal as quickly as possible. drugging and harrassing wildlife will definatly get you a kick in the balls if i meet you. that one where the half dead buck was propped up to be shot really pissed me off.
these are the people that need to get beat to death for being so ####ing retarded
wouldnt it be awesome if their bs plans backfired and a big buck ended up killin one of the useless mofos? im not a tree hugging hippy but i do believe in dispatching an animal as quickly as possible. drugging and harrassing wildlife will definatly get you a kick in the balls if i meet you. that one where the half dead buck was propped up to be shot really pissed me off.
In some parts of Europe all they have left is "High Fence Hunting".
The way our hunting grounds are getting smaller and farther away, its bound to happen here too eventually.
They talk about the disease problems in these game farms, but that is certainly not a problem for cattle and sheep ranchers becuase they have the mainstream technology and medecine etc.
Game farming needs mroe development, for sure. BUt I dont see why it isnt viable.
It may be against some of your values. But at least the animal in a game farm has a better life than a pig who lives and dies in the same cage it cant even turn around in.
I imagine that with proper management, the take from a game farm would be better, healthier and more well managed than that from the wild.
Certainly not from this game far though, at least as the video shows us. But I dont know. I just dont understand something here I guess.
The way our hunting grounds are getting smaller and farther away, its bound to happen here too eventually.
They talk about the disease problems in these game farms, but that is certainly not a problem for cattle and sheep ranchers becuase they have the mainstream technology and medecine etc.
Game farming needs mroe development, for sure. BUt I dont see why it isnt viable.
It may be against some of your values. But at least the animal in a game farm has a better life than a pig who lives and dies in the same cage it cant even turn around in.
I imagine that with proper management, the take from a game farm would be better, healthier and more well managed than that from the wild.
Certainly not from this game far though, at least as the video shows us. But I dont know. I just dont understand something here I guess.
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Me toocanadian hunter312 said:
The sh!tbags who did that should be drugged, stripped naked, sprayed with doe estrus urine and dumped in a 50x50 high-fenced lot filled with a big herd of rutting bucks. Hopefully they'd end up as a big red stain in the mud, but if not, at least they'd never "hunt" again. Heh heh As someone mentioned, hunting in the US has evolved into a bit of a joke, which is partly a result of their large population. I sincerely doubt anything like that will ever happen here in BC, there's too much empty space (BC isn't good for much except growing trees, and wildlife as a result). There are literally thousands upon thousands of hectares in BC that are uninhabitable/undevelopable AND unharvestable from a logging perspective. Lots of places for deer to hide
Guys I don't agree with the fish in a barrell type of hunt but what constatutes fair and ethical a 4000 Acre farm or a 400Acre farm Hunting is hunting and as long as it is fair and ethical. Picking an animal out of a pen and shooting it is not real hunting I agree and nor would I do it but to hunt a 1000acre farm of mostly bush with 25 elk on it and two shooters only heck ya I would. Remember guys the anti's would like to see us divide lines amoung us we need to unite to preserve hunting and shooting in Canada.
I suppose big enough so that the hunter requires at least a "minor" level of skill, with todays equipment etc., nothing less than the great outdoors, even then we must admit the skill requirement is not that high. (with todays, equipment devices etc.)coltfan said:
I think what that video shows boys, is that the days of hunting are over.
Why are they wearing all their camo etc.?
And why the tree stand?
Oh ya, the "fake" video is part of the package.
I guess any hunting video I see is fake.
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If this stuff gets well publisized, We can hang up our skates, it's the end of hunting. Hunters are just portrayed as drunken #######s.Ihunt338 said:
The only way to keep our guns is to get "2nd. Ammendment", like
status and "Castle Doctrine" and "Stand Your Ground". We must get the right to gun ownership for self defense.
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Vic777 said:
End of hunting? Why? Just point out to the antis that the last meat they ate came from an animal that was almost certainly treated far worse than the animals that get killed on a canned "hunt", and tell them that they should either switch to vegetarianism or stop being a [bleep]ing hypocrite.
When you get right down to it, what is the difference between a cow getting slaughtered in an abbatoir, a deer getting killed on a canned "hunt", or a wild deer getting killed by a hunter?
AFAIK, the cow's led an unpleasant life and is getting killed in a fairly cruel industrial manner. And the guy killing it gets no pride or (I would hope) enjoyment from the kill.
The canned deer has probably had a more pleasant existence and isn't dying any more unpleasantly than the cow, and may in fact suffer much less. And while the "sport" pulling the trigger is getting enjoyment from it, deep down inside he can't really take pride in it. It's a faked experience and both expensive and really cheapening at the same time, sort've like going to a brothel.
The wild deer's been living the life it was evolved for, isn't dying any more unpleasantly than the cow or the canned deer, and the hunter can draw both enjoyment and pride from the kill.
Conclusions? The next time antis object to canned "hunting", tell them to weep for their last steak dinner. Canned hunting? Not for me; I wouldn't get what I'm looking for out of it. Hunting? Have a great time, guys, and good luck.
