Hunting OFSC trail

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What are the rules/etiquette as far as hunting a snowmobile/ATV trail?

Obviously in winter when trails are busy with sleds it would not be safe/practical but can I walk a marked snowmobile trail on crown land and shoot grouse?
 
not sure about crown land but we have the trails down here in the south and thy all run on private land so no you would not be allowed to just walk and hunt them .we have a trail that goes thru are farm for skidoos some nights it just seems to be millions of them drives you nuts ,D
 
If the trail runs thru private land you can't hunt unless you have the landowners permission.

Actually with the trail pass you can only drive your sled. No hunting no cross country skiing or atving. Just sleding when the trails are open. Crown land is a different matter.

I am speaking as a land owner who has a trail running thru my property.
 
Thanks guys. Wasn't sure if the OFSC had some sort of agreement so as to be the only ones able to use the trails. Not that it would really be the MNR or OPP's jurisdiction to bust me for shooting something from it anyways.

Besides, I looked at this particular stretch of trail on the trail conditions site last winter and it seemed to always be closed???
 
If it was closed last winter, there must be a reason. Every other trail in Ontario was open, best snow in years.
Just to stress again the crown land point, I am a landowner in Ontario, and everybody treats my land and the OFSC trail as if it was their private parkland. I just posted all of it this week.
T
 
If it was closed last winter, there must be a reason. Every other trail in Ontario was open, best snow in years.
Just to stress again the crown land point, I am a landowner in Ontario, and everybody treats my land and the OFSC trail as if it was their private parkland. I just posted all of it this week.
T

I know. Seemed strange when I could step out of my tent without my snowshoes on and sink up to my waist.
 
Thanks guys. Wasn't sure if the OFSC had some sort of agreement so as to be the only ones able to use the trails. Not that it would really be the MNR or OPP's jurisdiction to bust me for shooting something from it anyways.

Besides, I looked at this particular stretch of trail on the trail conditions site last winter and it seemed to always be closed???


p.s. Tards on sleds will call the and report "someone with a gun". It has happened to me twice in the last 3 years. Last winter the OPP were waiting for me beside my parked truck on Old Simcoe Rd in Port Perry as I walked off an OFSC trail....sled tards were waiting to watch the take-down, had a short friendly chat with the constabulary and the sled-tards left unsatisfied.
 
"Tards" as you put it, are the same regardless of what they are driving. Has nothing to do with snowmobiles.

A snowmobile trail maybe closed for any number of reasons, and not strictly snow conditions. For example: logging closers, bridge failure, unsafe water crossing, loss of land access etc. This can be anywhere along the trail as the groomers and sleds need to cross the complete trail to link up the the next trail. They typically would not mark a dead ended trail as open.

The previous posters are correct, your fine on crown land but not on private property. Purchasing a OFSC trail permit gives you permission to use OFSC trails including those on private property for that snowmobile during the dates listed. Others using those trails on private property are trespassing.
 
If youre walking snowmobile trails in S Ontario, there is a good chance you're trespassing, most of the trails around me are privately owned, and the term "tard" and sled "tard" is unnecessary.
T

p.s. Tards on sleds will call the and report "someone with a gun". It has happened to me twice in the last 3 years. Last winter the OPP were waiting for me beside my parked truck on Old Simcoe Rd in Port Perry as I walked off an OFSC trail....sled tards were waiting to watch the take-down, had a short friendly chat with the constabulary and the sled-tards left unsatisfied.
 
Well - Just a heads up. We frequently use sled trails during deer season in Central Ontario - in fact, our hunt camp is located on one. Like the majority of snowmobile trails in our area, they are on Crown land, or right of ways through private land, owned by the crown/municipality. We had a debate at the camp about the legality of shooting on said trails. It was solved a few days later when I encountered a CO - he said that since the trail was subject to "public vehicular traffic", he would charge anyone he caught shooting on or across the trail.
 
"Tards" as you put it, are the same regardless of what they are driving. Has nothing to do with snowmobiles.

I agree 100%, I have boats, quads and sleds and ride them all. In the summer I run into lots a quad-tards tearing up meadows etc, the Kawarthas are full of weekend boat-tards that can't seem to stay on their side of the channels and I only ever seem to run into sled-tards, well, umm, on the sled trails as I said. Tards are tards and I call them as such.

If youre walking snowmobile trails in S Ontario, there is a good chance you're trespassing, most of the trails around me are privately owned, and the term "tard" and sled "tard" is unnecessary.
T

Why so defensive? You call the cops on me? lol.

Sorry to deflate for theory bubble, but I do not HUNT private land without written permission, that would be poaching. The OP specified hunting OFC trails on CROWN land in his opening post, this discussion is not about trails on private property. Please read, comprehend, then reply.
 
It was solved a few days later when I encountered a CO - he said that since the trail was subject to "public vehicular traffic", he would charge anyone he caught shooting on or across the trail.

Would a trail requiring a permit to ride on still be considered public though?

"You must not discharge firearms from or across any right of way for public vehicular traffic in any part of Ontario designated in the Regulations or from or across the travelled portion in any other area. This does not apply to an unmaintained right of way unless the regulations provide otherwise."

Also is a trail only open during the winter when snow conditions permit, a "maintained" right of way?
 
Well - Just a heads up. We frequently use sled trails during deer season in Central Ontario - in fact, our hunt camp is located on one. Like the majority of snowmobile trails in our area, they are on Crown land, or right of ways through private land, owned by the crown/municipality. We had a debate at the camp about the legality of shooting on said trails. It was solved a few days later when I encountered a CO - he said that since the trail was subject to "public vehicular traffic", he would charge anyone he caught shooting on or across the trail.


The CO you spoke to was misinformed or just being an ass.

I assume he was referring to this tidbit from page 5 of the hunting regs seen here - http://files.ontario.ca/environment-and-energy/fish-and-wildlife/239841.pdf

No possession of a loaded firearm
within eight metres of the travelled
portion of a road (or roadside
fenceline where one exists) at
any time AND no discharge
of a firearm from or across a right of
way for public vehicular traffic at
any time


But he must not have bothered to read the very last line...

NOTE: The restrictions above do not apply to unmaintained roads.



OFSC trails on crown land are 100% huntable. Same as fire access roads. If the city, municipality or province do not maintain it, you can hunt it!
 
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ZUK - I'm aware of the regs. Snowmobile trails are maintained for public use, so are some forest access roads.
DK518 - Major land parcels generally have a right of way between them. They don't exist as roads per se, the municipality holds the right to build a road if needed...
 
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