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I thought I would double check this. I was told it was legal to have a loaded firearm on horseback. because its not a motor veichle. I was just thinking of haveing my 30-30 in the sling with only rounds in the mag. not chambered of course. anywere you can hunt you should be able to do this. also in northern b.c I know of people carrying hand guns on horseback. two of them have a permit to carry for wilderness defense. another one has a permit though his free miners licence. somthing about a wilderness authorization to carry?
just thought id put this out here for disscusion for i can bust some myths.
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I dunno....it's hard enough to shoot straight out of the sunroof going across a field, let alone on the back of a horse!

;)
 
Funny, I was told I can't use my dog to pull a sled or cart while hunting. Is this more dis-information from uninformed government workers?
 
It is an offense to carry a loaded firearm in or on a vehicle or while on horseback. A rifle or shotgun is deemed loaded when shells are in the magazine or when a loaded clip is attached to a hinge plate or in contact with the firearm.
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Am I reading this correctly? A firearm is considered loaded if the ammo is "IN CONTACT WITH THE FIREARM"? What about an ammo sleeve on the butt stock, or the shell holders on the side of the magazine???
 
Remember folks the rules we're talking about are different for every province. Definitions in one may be different than others. The bc regs have a completely different definition of 'firearm' than the feds for example.

This is what the regs say about 'ammo touching the gun' in bc:

Loaded Firearm - means any firearm containing
live ammunition in either the breech or
the magazine. A clip containing live ammunition,
when attached to the firearm, is considered as
the magazine. Muzzle loaders - see page 17.
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note the word 'attached'. Not 'touching'.


This is what it says a 'vehcile' is:

Motor Vehicle - means a device in, on or
by which a person or thing is being or may
be transported or drawn, and which is
designed to be self propelled, and includes an
ATV or snowmobile, but does not include a
device designed to be moved by human,
animal or wind power; a device designed to
be used exclusively on stationary rails or stationary
tracks; or a boat propelled by motorized
power.
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It says it is illegal to

5. to discharge, carry or have in possession
a firearm containing live ammunition in
its breech or in its magazine attached to
the firearm, in or on a railway car, motor
vehicle, sleigh, aircraft, bicycle or other
conveyance.
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To my knowledge - "Conveyance" has always refered to a vehicle of some sort, powered by something (engine, animal etc).

I would interpret the rules to suggest that animals you are actually riding are not the same as a vehicle. You would want to call the ministry to be sure of their definition of the word. As i read it - you are not prohibited from firing from horseback.
 
A clip containing live ammunition,
when attached to the firearm, is considered as
the magazine.
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OK, for a single shot like a Ruger #1, an ammo holder on the stock is considered a magazine?
Would a plastic clip attached to the side of a shotgun be considered a magazine?
 
2fat2fly said:
Am I reading this correctly? A firearm is considered loaded if the ammo is "IN CONTACT WITH THE FIREARM"? What about an ammo sleeve on the butt stock, or the shell holders on the side of the magazine???
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According to the CO that stopped by buddy last winter, the ammo in his buttstock holder meant his firearm was loaded.
 
Only in Saskatchewan you say.... how ridiculous!

So... if you have a cartridge in your hand and are holding the rifle then the rifle would be considered loaded?

I guess it might make sense... to that CO at least!

Sheesh!
 
gyman98 said:
According to the CO that stopped by buddy last winter, the ammo in his buttstock holder meant his firearm was loaded.
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That's kinda what I figured, although I don't agree with the ruling.
This is something to keep in mind when heading out to the bush or back to the truck outside specified hunting times.
 
BimmerBob said:
Only in Saskatchewan you say.... how ridiculous!

So... if you have a cartridge in your hand and are holding the rifle then the rifle would be considered loaded?
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From what Foxer posted, it's the same in BC.
Cartridges in your hand aren't "attached" to the firearm, so no, it's not loaded.
As soon as you use one of the ammo side saddles, it is considered loaded.
I don't know if this would be enforced by a CO with some common sense, but the text states it's illegal.
 
Use a Lee Enfield , keep a few 5rd stripper clips in your pocket and load-up quicker than a hiccup ;)

Hunting Elk/Moose on horseback would be a dream hunt for this ol' boy.
 
When I put the rifle in the horse's scabbard, I make sure the magazine is loaded, and the chamber empty. I double and triple check the magazine is empty.;)

Legal to hunt in this manner in BC, as far as I know.:)
 
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bnichols said:
Wouldn't carry a loaded rifle on horseback myself, being a shooter, horse owner & rider, but you might want to check with Mantracker.

http://www.mantracker.ca/
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I live within 2 miles of the so called "mantracker". I don't think that he could answer the question nor could he track his own shadow without the help of the network.

That being said, I pack a rifle on my horse. Rounds in the magazine, but NEVER loaded. Now.....don't it just sound plain stupid whether legal or not to pack a loaded rifle on ANYTHING, let alone a frikkin' horse?

Finally, if you had ANY horse experience whatsoever, you wouldn't even ask this question.
 
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OK, for a single shot like a Ruger #1, an ammo holder on the stock is considered a magazine?
Would a plastic clip attached to the side of a shotgun be considered a magazine?
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No - absolutely not here in bc.

First off - a side saddle is not a clip nor a magazine. So if you're just talking about a shell holder (rather than a detatchable mag) as in the case of a ruger 1 then the gun is absolutely not loaded. At least not in bc.

A magazine (detachable or otherwise) is meant to feed cartridges into the chamber as the action is cycled - obviously that is not the case with something on the butt of the gun which requires you to remove the cartridge and then insert it into the gun.
 
guido said:
Being a shooter, horse owner & rider, I don't hesitate to load my magazine full of cartridges.
Oh, and by the way, you can shoot off EVERY horse........ once.
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Read what Guido says: "magazine" .....oh and yes, you can shoot off a horse coboy....ONCE. Bye bye , now you walk. :D
 
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