i can't decide.... CDX30 , AI AT, PGW, TRG.... in 308 for precsiison rifle matches
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Well doots, are you any closer to picking one?
For me it was between the AI and the PGW. I had a hell of a time choosing as both are wicked rifles.
Here is a 2500 round rifle review from my AI which is very similar to the AT. Should give you some info.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...ccuracy-International-2500-round-rifle-review
If anybody wants to loan my a Coyote to review for the next 3 years I'm in!!
For me it was between the AI and the PGW. I had a hell of a time choosing as both are wicked rifles.
Here is a 2500 round rifle review from my AI which is very similar to the AT. Should give you some info.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...ccuracy-International-2500-round-rifle-review
If anybody wants to loan my a Coyote to review for the next 3 years I'm in!!
I wouldn't get any of the options you've listed out for PRS type matches. None of them are really great at it to be honest.
I would get Insite Arms to build you a rifle. That way you can get a rifle that is actually designed for that type of shooting, as opposed to the rifles you listed which were designed for other roles. The Insite Arms guys are great guys to work with, and actually shoot PRS matches in the U.S., as well as being a title sponsor for the first ever Canadian PRS match, so they know their way around PRS rifles.
I would get Insite Arms to build you a rifle. That way you can get a rifle that is actually designed for that type of shooting, as opposed to the rifles you listed which were designed for other roles. The Insite Arms guys are great guys to work with, and actually shoot PRS matches in the U.S., as well as being a title sponsor for the first ever Canadian PRS match, so they know their way around PRS rifles.
I know, I was also at that match, and happen to know the 3rd place winner.
Sure, you can win a match with an AI or a PGW, etc. but it's not the best tool for the job. Their chassis weren't designed with shooting off of barricades in mind, and although they can do it, they do not excel at it. There are work arounds as well, such as using the RRS SOAR products, which make some of these rifles more effective at PRS type shooting.
I happen to live in Texas and as a member of TxPRC, and have shot in a bunch of the local club matches (along with 3 PRS matches this year). These club matches are attended by a lot of AI shooters. AI rifles are really popular in Texas, especially South Texas due to Jacob Bynum of Rifle's Only, but guess what rifles are consistently at the top of the leaderboard? Almost always a custom rifle. One of the top shooters does use an AI AT (he's also a fairly highly ranked PRS shooter), but he cut his stock skins and chassis to create a 90 degree ledge in the front of the magwell to make it more effective for barricades. I also have a friend who is from the UK who I have trained with at Rifle's Only and K&M at their signature 4 & 5 day precision rifle courses, and he is strongly considering selling his AI rifle to build a custom rifle for this type of shooting. A custom rifle will cost a lot to ship and import to the UK (will end up costing thousands more than an AI), yet he see's a definite advantage to custom rifles than to his AI, so it's worth the additional cost. Sure these are all anecdotal examples, but so are yours.
Can you win a match with them? Certainly. Is it the best tool for the job? Probably not. If you are somewhat experienced and have an idea of what works and what doesn't work for your shooting style, you can get a custom made rifle which mates up perfectly with you and your style of shooting. If you are rather inexperienced and just getting into the game, then perhaps just getting a factory rifle is the best option for you as you don't really know what you want/what would work best for you anyways. The bonus with a factory rifle is that the resale is generally a bit better than a custom rifle, so you'll get more of your money back when you decide to sell it to custom build a rifle that fits you.
None of those rifles are bad by any means, not at all. But if someone asked me for a recommendation for a rifle dedicated to PRS style shooting, none of them would be on the list. The OP also wants a .308, which I think is a great caliber and a lot of fun, but also not the best tool for the job for PRS type shooting.
The Tactical Class has been around for a while now. You constantly talk about PRS shooting and give advice out to people that want to shoot PRS stuff, but have yet to shoot one yourself. What is stopping you from shooting one?
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Very strong commitments in F class competition has kept me too busy these last few years. 2017 will likely be another gonzo year if I go to the Worlds in Ottawa,
Also, realising there are some wonderful events not far from my door (DUH!) has opened up more opportunities to play.
As much as I travel, a trip to another province to play for a weekend gets pretty pricey. WA is far less expensive and I have been shooting F class there the last 2 yrs.
So as time allows, I will get down to WA and try out an event or two. But the technical side of the rifle is really nothing new. PRS has done a magnificent job of packaging the course of fire to add alot of excitement and fun but the concept of field shooting has been around for decades. I was building "tactical/sniper" rifles before I got into F class.
Bolt action, mag fed rifles shot off a foldy bipod is certainly not a new concept.
With the very open rules for gear, PRS is encouraging a range of innovation in supports and rifle set up. All very positive and let's you explore all manner of "mousetraps". Think of the innovation happening in PRS like IPSC did for handguns. Lots of great ideas and tools to help accomplish weird and wonderful tasks. some tasks can be applied to other real world jobs so the "mousetraps" help to evolve current professional tech.
And with the chance to go play, I am now putting efforts to making rifles to try out my ideas.
But whether the barricade is on my range, in the hills, at some match, the concepts don't change so the "mousetraps" will prove themselves worthwhile... or not.
Fun, fun, fun...
Jerry
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I think there is too much discussion of gear and do-dads and the impacts they have. Buy which one you want and practice. Just make sure you can do everything with and without the attachments - who knows what a MD will throw at you.
My AI, great rifle, my custom, great rifle. A custom built by Insite in an MPA chassis with all of its features, great rifle.
Edit: A 308 is not the best if the goal is to compete. It is nice Cadex offers 6.5 Creed and I think 260.
My AI, great rifle, my custom, great rifle. A custom built by Insite in an MPA chassis with all of its features, great rifle.
Edit: A 308 is not the best if the goal is to compete. It is nice Cadex offers 6.5 Creed and I think 260.
I agree to a point. People spend way too much time focusing on equipment. If people spent half the amount of time training by practicing shooting positional, dry-firing, shooting in the wind, etc. as they did on the forums and researching the next "big thing" according to the PRS blog, they would be way better off as shooters. Hell, even just a quarter or an eighth of that time. There's way too many "airmchair shooters" on this site.
However this person has the opportunity to get the right tool for the job right out of the gates. When spending thousands of dollars, I think that's a fairly important decision.
