I dont know what I did

Ha ha !!!Winchester model 70 xtr sporter early 90s ..Bausch and Lomb elite 4000 scope.sighted it in last year haven't touched it since..I was shooting up hill in a ground blind..Blue Mountian area..

That is dangerous to assume nothing has changed. I always clean my rifles before the start of season, shoot a few groups to confirm zero and foul the barrels, then don't touch them until after the season is over or they get wet for whatever reason. Always confirm zero before hunting with a rifle.


matrix deer?

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Crazy unexplainable stuff happens some times... Get to the range and confirm that your gun/scope are still on target, try to run through your memory of the events, if you can't remember the small details then you probably had "doe fever!"

When I was a 10-12 year old kid, I shot at a ruffed grouse sitting on the ground with my "tried and true" mossberg .22, 50 feet beyond the bird and 10 feet in the air, I shot the top off a poplar sappling... I looked at my dad flabbergasted... He, just shrugged and said "what the heck?" At that time I had already taken hundreds of grouse. To this day, there has been no explaination for that shot... But the story has gotten a lot of mileage!
 
I had something similar happen to me on a whitetail hunt in Saskatchewan. After several days of walking and scouting I finally found the right one on a ridge at about 100 yards. Raised the 7mm Mag, pulled the trigger, bang and nothing happened. I figured I hit the deer where I wanted but took a follow up shot with the same result... and another and another. I did manage to see that the last shot was about 2 feet to the left of the buck and it was then that I knew something was wrong. The deer fled and my hunt was over for the day. Luckily I had a back-up rifle for the rest of my hunt.

When I got home I took the rifle to the range and it was all over the place... four foot groups at best. Replaced the scope from another rifle and it was shooting great again.

It turns out the reticle had come loose. I guess it happens... even on a Zeiss V/MV! I got a full warranty and 8 months later the scope was repaired and returned.

I had this rifle out for sight-in regularly for two weeks before this hunt and it is treated like a baby. Maybe just faulty workmanship that day?
 
Shoot the gun first on paper. Chances are you have something strange going on. Your scope to bore centerline might be 4" at best so it should be nearly impossible to miss at any under 100 yard range if the gun is zeroed at 100.
 
Doe fever?

My hunting partner once missed a doe at about 40 yards. Missed her clean. We followed her tracks after the shot for several hundred metres, and there was no blood, and she was LEAPING over deadfall to get away.

A little later I made him shoot a small target to check his scope, and he pinned it near the centre. He missed that doe outright LOL.
 
I've had a couple of scopes change the POI when I adjusted the power. At the range it would be on but I would use high power to focus on a small aiming point then turn it down for hunting. On one hunt I had it on four power lined up on a deer from a good rest at about 200 yards and missed. Turned the power up and took a second shot and dropped it.

A sign that the PO changes with power settings is a slight slipping of the power ring when your turn it up or down. Something to check if you are using a variable power. After that day I confirm the POI with a bore sighter when I adjust the power ring. Lesson learned.
 
I've had a couple of scopes change the POI when I adjusted the power. At the range it would be on but I would use high power to focus on a small aiming point then turn it down for hunting. On one hunt I had it on four power lined up on a deer from a good rest at about 200 yards and missed. Turned the power up and took a second shot and dropped it.

A sign that the PO changes with power settings is a slight slipping of the power ring when your turn it up or down. Something to check if you are using a variable power. After that day I confirm the POI with a bore sighter when I adjust the power ring. Lesson learned.


Say what !!!

A bore sighter will never show exact point of impact.

If you have a cheap scope the parallax might change point of impact at different distances as most are set parallax free at 100 yards but changing the variable power or focus ring should not.
 
Say what !!!

A bore sighter will never show exact point of impact.

If you have a cheap scope the parallax might change point of impact at different distances as most are set parallax free at 100 yards but changing the variable power or focus ring should not.

What he is checking is to see if the crosshairs are moving during zooming of the scope with a bore sighter after he has zero'd the gun.
In other words he's making sure that his scope is functioning properly due to having one fail in the past.
Seems prudent based on his personal experience.
 
What he is checking is to see if the crosshairs are moving during zooming of the scope with a bore sighter after he has zero'd the gun.
In other words he's making sure that his scope is functioning properly due to having one fail in the past.
Seems prudent based on his personal experience.

And actually a very good idea. Far to many guys hunt with "package" guns which typically have the cheapest POS scopes on them. And time I buy a gun with a scope, the scope and rings come off, get replaced with better optics and the old stuff gets set aside for the next time I'm trading a rifle in.... ;)
 
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