I got my muzzle brake today

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I got my muzzle brake today from Rimfire Sports. It's the stainless version to match my barrel and fit quite nicely.

What you can't see in the picture is the the end of the muzzle brake has a kind of lip on it and it kind of looks old school, so I took a grinder and cut it off. Not sure how that's going to affect the functionality of the brake, but I don't really care, it was the look I was after.

As sold from Rimfire Sports
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I've heard some reports that the hardware that holds this unit on can come lose over time and it falls off, I think I've solved that problem with these steps:

#1. I put the muzzle brake on and then marked with a pen where the bolt would meet with the barrel.
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#2. I drilled out a small section about 1/64" deep so that the point of the hardware has somewhere to sit in.
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#3. I took a small amount of Gorilla glue and pasted it on both the inside of the muzzle break and the muzzle end of the barrel. This is how the final product looks. I'm quite impressed with how it turned out.
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It looks like you did a great job! :cool:

3 things that may expose just how "not-with-it" I am today :D :

(1) That is a 10/22, right? ;)

(2) Was there any difficulty with the front-sight, considering how/where the muzzle-break sits? Just curious...:redface:

(3) I love Gorilla Glue. :p

One of the things that I like to do with .22's is punch holes in wooden boards, just to get the joy of seeing that terminal-impact.....:dancingbanana:....with a muzzle break, the .22 leaves the barrel more slowly and more uniformly, and hits the "target-medium" with a satisfying and more "full-on" whack.....:)
 
cyclone said:
It looks like you did a great job! :cool:

3 things that may expose just how "not-with-it" I am today :D :

(1) That is a 10/22, right? ;)

(2) Was there any difficulty with the front-sight, considering how/where the muzzle-break sits? Just curious...:redface:

(3) I love Gorilla Glue. :p

One of the things that I like to do with .22's is punch holes in wooden boards, just to get the joy of seeing that terminal-impact.....:dancingbanana:....with a muzzle break, the .22 leaves the barrel more slowly and more uniformly, and hits the "target-medium" with a satisfying and more "full-on" whack.....:)
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Yeah, sorry, ####ty pictures.

Yes, it's a 10/22.

The brake has a cutout for the front sight and it basically just slips over the muzzle with a little force. If it were just a matter of slipping the brake on and tightening the bolt, I could have had this done in about 20 seconds. All in all between the drilling and gluing, it took about 10 minutes. I'm hopeful that it's a fully permanent fix to it possible ever falling off.

You know what? I actually HATE gorilla glue. I like that it's quite strong (although there are much stronger glues out there), but the thing I hate is how it expands as it dries. I ALWAYS have to go over anything I've glued with an exacto knife and cut off the excess dried glue.

That being said, it's alright for the price. I use it for a bunch of different stuff and have only been disappointed in it a few times. Once you know what to expect from it, it works quite well. But that expansion factor is still a pretty big downfall, IMO.
 
targettarget said:
You know what? I actually HATE gorilla glue. I like that it's quite strong (although there are much stronger glues out there), but the thing I hate is how it expands as it dries. I ALWAYS have to go over anything I've glued with an exacto knife and cut off the excess dried glue....................Once you know what to expect from it, it works quite well. But that expansion factor is still a pretty big downfall, IMO.
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One general trick with that glue ;) - and yes, I've been foolish enough to use it without gloves :( (, and had "clammy" hands for what felt like 3 weeks! :redface:)...is to coat screws with it and then drill them into place..:yingyang:..if the initial fit is loose, it'll expand snugly and strongly...:cool:
 
with a muzzle break, the .22 leaves the barrel more slowly and more uniformly
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Seriously?

Please exlain in detail exactly how a muzzle BRAKE causes the bullet to leave the barrel at a lower velocity and how it causes the bullet's velocities to be more "uniform"?

Otherwise I have often found it usefull to A. reread what I wrote before posting and B. not post about stuff I don't know #### about.
 
Suputin said:
Seriously?

Please exlain in detail exactly how a muzzle BRAKE causes the bullet to leave the barrel at a lower velocity and how it causes the bullet's velocities to be more "uniform"?

Otherwise I have often found it usefull to A. reread what I wrote before posting and B. not post about stuff I don't know s**t about.
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when the bullet leaves the barrel it can kick to one side if there is uneven pressure when it leaves ... the muzzle brake lets the pressure behind the bullet even out. making the bullet fly true.

looks wicked good dude!! they make one for the .920 barrel??
 
Looks great, but........thats a flash hider, isn't it? I guess it is now, anyway. I don't think a muzzle break is going to do much when it comes to making the bullet fly true unless it controls muzzle flip.
 
Note: I do not mean any of the following to be offensive....more playful, if anything..:p.....it's been a looooong day....:(

Suputin said:
Seriously?

That was my own impression, at least, based on my experiences :). I'm no ballistics-genius, though, and I could very-well be wrong. ;)

Please exlain in detail exactly how a muzzle BRAKE

Please see my next comment...perhaps what I was referring to was not a de facto muzzle-brake? :yingyang:

causes the bullet to leave the barrel at a lower velocity and how it causes the bullet's velocities to be more "uniform"?

Well, I was noticing how many here and in the "trade magazines" ;) would state that 16-18 inches would be optimal for a .22's barrel, but I always found that the .22's (and esp. with CB's, in particular) from my longer-barrel rifles seemed to hit targets with "more authority"...:D, embedding themselves deeper into the targets [i.e. decently thick planks of wood]. Someone here (who, with all due apologies, I forget the name of :redface:) pointed out to me that the longer-barrel rifles slow the speed of the bullets, allowing them to hit the target differently. :cool:

That was all good and fine, but I found that my rifles with shorter barrels could do the same thing, and then some, if they were wearing that "funny thing with the cuts in it that rests on the end of the barrel" :p. (After all, I don't want to offend anyone by calling it a "compensator" or a "muzzle-brake", as I'm generally an easy-going kinda guy....;)). IMHO, it was not a flash-hider, but it seems I've been wrong before....:stirthepot2:......

Anyhow, I figured the same principles must be at work; a slower-moving, more evenly-flying .22, hitting the target the same way that a .22 from a longer-barrel rifle would. Just my own thoughts, I suppose. :)

Otherwise I have often found it usefull to A. reread what I wrote before posting

I like to do that as well! :p Good on you; it's a great habit....;)

and B. not post about stuff I don't know s**t about.
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Well, I truly dunno just to whom either (a) or (b) was directed (and I try not to make too many assumptions! :D), but I was basically (and civilly? :canadaFlag:) just trying to say what I've seen and previously discussed in "this here forum".

coolhandluke seems to have said it much better than I did, and I thank him for that clarity. :yingyang:

Um, yea..:cheers:....I still like the "singed ends" look of that attachment, though! :cool:
 
I'm pretty sure the "lip" you cut off was the "braking" part of the muzzle brake. It (the "lip") is what the expanding gas leaving the muzzle impacts against to reduce the recoil (utilizing, of course, Newton's Third Law... but I'm sure you knew that...) ;) So now what you have is a muzzle flash suppressor.

Either way, I'm sure you installed it for looks and not utility. :D

Looks cool!

Matthew
 
when the bullet leaves the barrel it can kick to one side if there is uneven pressure when it leaves ... the muzzle brake lets the pressure behind the bullet even out. making the bullet fly true.
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It is true that uneven gas flow around the bullet as it exits the muzzle can cause instability and thus inaccuracy. However all that happens at the barrel crown. The muzzle brake or flash hider will have no effect on the bullet's flight or stability.

Well, I was noticing how many here and in the "trade magazines" would state that 16-18 inches would be optimal for a .22's barrel, but I always found that the .22's (and esp. with CB's, in particular) from my longer-barrel rifles seemed to hit targets with "more authority"..., embedding themselves deeper into the targets [i.e. decently thick planks of wood]. Someone here (who, with all due apologies, I forget the name of ) pointed out to me that the longer-barrel rifles slow the speed of the bullets, allowing them to hit the target differently.

That was all good and fine, but I found that my rifles with shorter barrels could do the same thing, and then some, if they were wearing that "funny thing with the cuts in it that rests on the end of the barrel" . (After all, I don't want to offend anyone by calling it a "compensator" or a "muzzle-brake", as I'm generally an easy-going kinda guy....). IMHO, it was not a flash-hider, but it seems I've been wrong before..........

Anyhow, I figured the same principles must be at work; a slower-moving, more evenly-flying .22, hitting the target the same way that a .22 from a longer-barrel rifle would. Just my own thoughts, I suppose.
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Did you ever actually measure the velocity of the bullets using a chronograph? Did you ever actually measure the penetration of bullets from different rifles into the same plank of wood?

If not then you are just WAGing (wild ass guessing) and that doesn't mean anything. Feelings are what the anti's use to collect data. We use tools and calibrated equipment to gather data.

The is absolutely no reason why a muzzle brake or flash hider should affect the velocity or flight stability of the bullet.
 
Suputin said:
Did you ever actually measure the velocity of the bullets using a chronograph?

No, I have not...yet. ;) Any brave volunteers to help me out? :cool:

Did you ever actually measure the penetration of bullets from different rifles into the same plank of wood?

That I have. :yingyang:

If not then you are just WAGing (wild ass guessing)

Per above. :)

and that doesn't mean anything. Feelings are what the anti's use to collect data. We use tools and calibrated equipment to gather data.

Just sharing experiences and discussions, not proclaiming it as "gospel"....:p....but then again, I wasn't claiming to provide anything other than my own observations. Friends again? :D

The is absolutely no reason why a muzzle brake or flash hider should affect the velocity or flight stability of the bullet.
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To your last point, isn't there a potential for "bleed-off" that affects matters? I'm sincerely curious, and thanks in advance.
 
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