I got owned today..

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Icefire

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I bring a student from my class to shoot for the first time today.

I had about 160 rnds, splitted in the two of us, mostly lead, some FMJ reload (135pf)

He was grouping a lot better than me!

The 1st time I shot a gun with a Para .45 I did less than a inch group at 10m with 7 rounds.

Now I got a CZ75b in .40 and I shoot about 8inch left, scatered about the size of a A-zone on a IPSC target.

I have about 700 rounds fired with the guns, about 500 at my BB course last week-end, I wasn't sooo bad at ~10m but at 25m, I wasn't on the target.

Dunno what is wrong, I tryed 2 rounds from the bench, bottom of the mag on a sand bag and both shot were about 1" close from POA. So it's not the sight.

My instructor told me to look at my grip and stance, which is the same as Todd Jarret IPSC lesson video show, and I squeeze the trigger: pull until no more over-travel than pull steady with the tip of the finger until break.

I don't have flintch (tested today with random snap-cap).

Anything I could work on?
 
Farnham, Indoor club very nice, always alone lol
Since May I saw only one other member in the pistol range.
 
Cereal83 well he never handled a pistol in his life, did once .22, 30-06, 12g but that's it.

He was doing most of his shot in a 2-3 inch groups while mine was about 8 inch.

I'm focussing on the front sight, once where I want on the target and in the rear notch I squeeze the trigger and it's not going where I aim.

I'm newbie I know, but I must do something wrong somewhere since I did got some nice groups with the Para .45

Para .45 group I had the 1st time I shoot an handgun:
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ive actually developed bad habits shooting handguns over time. I find if I pick up a new gun, i can shoot it perfect. but over time, i just get sloppy with the grip etc. If your shooting and its not going right. just relax and have fun with it.
 
It is a well known phenomenon that when you teach someone else to shoot, they shoot better than you. It must have something to do with you explaining the fundamentals and then completely forgetting them when you try to show off!
I know I must sound like a broken record but dryfire, dryfire, dryfire.
 
Before I was using the 1st knuckle but I use the tip since my BB course

I pull straight back.

Shot #4 on that target, but in a 4inch radius.
 
I'd hazard a guess that you're breaking your front sight focus as you reach the end of the trigger pull. Ever heard the golf expession "you always look up to see a bad shot"?

Same idea, as the trigger pull reaches the back you might be refocusing on the target to see where your shot is going/went.

RC
 
Could be a bad day, could be that back of the mind need to 'show' your friend how pistol shooting is but affects your performance.

Still nice with that Para!!!
 
Winz, my bb was the same.

Tuffcity, it might be, I sometimes blink due to bang/recoil, but I think my grip pressure might influance..
 
I take it your pal was shooting good groups with the same gun, eliminating a gun issue from the problem. I wonder if you are "chasing your zero" in that when you see a shot land wide you attempt to hold off to compensate for the error. This very often results in large groups.

AS stated above, if your mind set was not focused on the job at hand, the target would tell the tale. Follow through might also be an issue if you are disturbed by the sound of the shot.
 
Icefire said:
I sometimes blink due to bang/recoil
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I am guessing that quite a few of these "blinks" occured before the bullet had actualy left the barrel... How much time do you spend shooting a 22lr?
It's a good training aid to built proper shooting habit.

At this distance, your groups should be the same regardless of the caliber you are shooting. If the bang and recoil makes you unconfortable, you might want to move down to a smaller caliber that you can better control.

Have fun ;)
 
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I found that the stress of trying to figure out wahts wrong makes it worse and then you're into a downward spiral. :(

One of the bigget mistakes I make after a while is readjusting my grip after every shot. Try to be aware of this and concentrate on keeping your bottom three fingers still. Get a grip and then keep it.

I take a dime of a quarter and put it between my pinky and the pistol grip. If I readjust, I drop the coin.

The other thing I've found helpfull is starting really close (if it's safe to do so at your range) and doing 5X5's. Five rounds, drop the mag, take 5 steps back (slide is open and your clear so it's safe to walk backwards) pop in a new mag, 5 more and so on. This is NOT a speed drill. Take your time a breathe, go though your regular routine.

Keep an eye on where your group opens up. Some poeple have a focus problem at certain distances.
 
Blackthorne, I guess I do the same, readjust my grip after each shot..
I think my grip is the problem as my *blink* isn't regular, just once in a while...
 
sillymike said:
I am guessing that quite a few of these "blinks" occured before the bullet had actualy left the barrel... How much time do you spend shooting a 22lr?
It's a good training aid to built proper shooting habit.

At this distance, your groups should be the same regardless of the caliber you are shooting. If the bang and recoil makes you unconfortable, you might want to move down to a smaller caliber that you can better control.

Have fun ;)
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I shoot handguns just for the bang and recoil,hitting the target is a bonus!!!:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:
 
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