I need help with a Winchester 94AE 1984

Baz1642

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Good evening gentlemen. This lever action was in an accident where the butt was brocken off. The action does not work, the level does not touch the safety stop, trigger safety. The stock is from Western Gun parts

My question is: how do I know if the stock bar is bent or this is the wrong stock.

This makes sense it’s bent so that why the stock and action doesn’t work.

Thanks in advance Baz.IMG_9435.jpeg
 

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Baz1642 said:
Good evening gentlemen. This lever action was in an accident where the butt was brocken off. The action does not work, the level does not touch the safety stop, trigger safety. The stock is from Western Gun parts

My question is: how do I know if the stock bar is bent or this is the wrong stock.

This makes sense it’s bent so that why the stock and action doesn’t work.

Thanks in advance Baz.View attachment 1154351
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This should answer a few things quickly.
 
The lower tang is spaced by the stock, it the stock is correct for a 94 Winchester, it should be fine.
There isn't anything bent, it's an illusion by the picture.
 
Let's try this:

Does the stock inlet currently fit the tangs independently? If you ignore the tang spacing, does the top fit the inlet, and same for the bottom?

Officially, a Model 94AE tang screw can measure up to 1.750" OAL. That includes the head. See if the tangs measure more than that, outside to outside,

These answers will help determine if the upper tang is bent, or not. The picture posted does show a bit of a radius, where there isn't supposed to be one.
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Definitely is the right stock and equally definite is that the top tang is substantially bent and probably the bottom one as well if the lever wont trip the trigger lock ( possibly the lever bow got bent in the same accident that bent the tangs). You will be able to tell which after the top tang is straightened.
straightening the top tang (and bottom if required) will require some very judicious heating to acompish this by someone who can handle the job without taking short-cuts...meaning just trying to cold bend it back to shape...that tang will just snap where the bend is and much bigger fixing job afterwards....same thing with the bottom tang or lever, if they require bending, heating is first order of business!!!
there just isnt a shortcut to fixing your rifle.
 
Badly bent and probably the bottom tang too or you would be able to depress your trigger block. What happened to the screw through the back of the tangs that held the stock on? The tangs are too far apart for that screw not to have failed
 
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Sure looks bent, Western Gun Parts is pretty knowledgeable and it's unlikely that they would send the wrong stock for an 1894, but even if it was the wrong model stock the top tang should be perpendicular to the end of the butt stock where it "butts" into the receiver.


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Another vote for it’s bent.
A couple of things I’m curious about;
What is the condition of the threads?
The lower tang would have gotten pulled by the screw, the screw would have been pulled by the upper tang.
To bend that far, and to see the tangs no longer parallel makes me think the screw threads failed and will likely need repair/replacement.
The good news is this is likely the least of your worries…
I’d get it assessed for repair with a gunsmith you trust as I would consider it beyond what most home enthusiasts could do.
The rest of the action might look okay but I would give it close scrutiny as I think it would be highly unlikely those forces didn’t twist, bow or crack the action.
To bend that tang not only would take a lot of force but the action close to the receiver had to be the fulcrum point with the butt stock being the weaker end of the teeter totter and it would be a rare incident where that force would be applied square to the rifles centerline. I would speculate that the force would likely be at a tangent and twist or torque things as it bent and would think the upper receiver or bolt would show some damage of being that fulcrum…
Which gets to my other curiosity…exactly how did this happen.
There’s got to be a story here and I’ll bet it would be a good read.
I think you might possibly be at the point of considering it a parts gun unless you have some emotional connection to it.
Probably more economical to sell the parts and buy a replacement gun vs paying a gunsmith to fix this as it doesn’t look like a easy or small fix.
 
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