I needed a couple rifles indexed so had a barrel vice made.

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Two of my M-305,s needed a barrel index job done on them and I didnt want to wait until I saw Hungry again this summer so ....
I made a tracing of Hungrys famous welfare barrel vice and took alot of pics of it over the years.
After a few pm,s to Hungry for technical advice , physical reassurance and emotional support I went out to the shed out back and fired up the ol Varnamo milling machine .





Due to the barrel having a different profile on the bottom the barrel vice has to be shaped correctly on the bottom half.

Here the angle is being cut into the bottom block at 45 degrees and the gap measures 1.1 inches wide


You can see the bottom half of the barrel vice is cut out more to fit the barrel correctly




Here is the barrel vice in position and you can see how the top block grabs the barrel and prevents the barrel from turning while in the vice..


When I went to use the vice for the first time I couldnt get it to tighten up enough onto the barrel ??????? Well having both blocks threaded is not the way to go ...lol .
After thinking about it abit I took my big ass bubba round file to the threads in the top block and removed all the threads. I was a little hesitant to go at it with the file after all the high tech machinerey made it but that fixed it and the indexing job was pretty anticlimactic actually .
The only issue was not being able to use straight edges for the job as both of these rifles have threaded muzzles so there isnt a flat edge to use like the original style flashiders have .
I just went with the gas system being inline as best as I could get it.
Once again I am very very thankfull that I hooked up with Hungry a few years back as his help is invaluable ......Thanks again Buddy !!
And special thanks to my newest cadpat friends S and M who did the milling for me .
 
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Ah... there's only one SMALL problem.....

You need the "Hungry WELFARE Barrel Vise" Moniker on there! :D yuk yuk yuk

I love all them beveled edges! Wow, what a beautiful set of barrel vise jaw blocks. Now you gotta help me make some for the rounded shank portion in order to install the PHAT Krieger barrels!

So here you are indexing the 2 rifles of yours.... what did you use for parallels? Cleaning rod sections? :nest:

Cheers and keep helping dem noobs around here,
Barney
 
I didnt use any rods at all....just put the barrel and gas system in the stock and eyeballed the rifle from the front to ensure the gas system was now lined up straight . I had to take the rifles and vice apart a couple times and index the barrel again to get it to line up correctly . Its alot easier job indexing the barrels that still have the flashider cuts in them .
 
It cost me $25.00 for the steel and a Timmies card the guys in the shop !!
When putting the rifles together today I noticed the gas lock front sights on the Socom and my other version both have nice flat edges on top !
So used Hungrys trick of using some spare m-305 cleaning rods (6 sections) for the paralells .





Heres the tools required ( the wrench has one end cut off so it can slip into the red cheater bar )
 
Holy tchit Chalky... What did it cost? I don't need 'em but lots of people do. If there were one or two of these floating around in a few major centres, it would solve many problems...

Exc idea!

chalkriver, which part of Ont are you located?

I am in Markham if you don't mind can I ask you for some measurements and I will have someone make a set so whoever is closer to me can loan it so other CGNers can tackle the index themselve if they are in a hurry.
 
Exc idea!

chalkriver, which part of Ont are you located?

I am in Markham if you don't mind can I ask you for some measurements and I will have someone make a set so whoever is closer to me can loan it so other CGNers can tackle the index themselve if they are in a hurry.

Measurements? Ha ha ha ha take the off the barrel contours. I'm not joking about that. That's all we ever did when a local machinist / tradesman/ oil patch veteran kindly made my set up for me. :)

Does this help? You can always visit me and measure my welfare vise blocks but the snowy conditions might be prohibitive this cold week. :eek:

Cheers, Barney
 
Measurements? Ha ha ha ha take the off the barrel contours. I'm not joking about that. That's all we ever did when a local machinist / tradesman/ oil patch veteran kindly made my set up for me. :)

Does this help? You can always visit me and measure my welfare vise blocks but the snowy conditions might be prohibitive this cold week. :eek:

Cheers, Barney

Hey Barney whats up man!

Yeah, I was thinking go to homedepot and grab a contour gauge and measure it out but I might take you up on your offer and pay you a visit when the weather is a little milder as I need your expert advice on something.

Anyway, will send you a PM in the morning and go from there.

Cheers
Norton
 
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