I received my new optics in the mail today Leupold Mark 4. Pics included

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I got a delivery slip in the mail today and rushed over to the post office. I got my new scope in the mail today and am super excited. :dancingbanana::dancingbanana:

Here's some pictures to show my excitement.

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A Leupold!! But which one could it be???


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A Mark 4 8.5-25x50mm with the TMR reticle?? SWEET!! :dancingbanana:

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One more shot, I promise.


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Thanks for looking, I'll post some pictures once she gets mounted on my rifle.:dancingbanana::dancingbanana:
 
It's called tactical mil dot reticule. Ur a lucky man. You have .5 mildot increments. This comes in best handy @ 10x zoom. For example, @ 100y the distance between each line is 1.8". The math past that is easy. Multiply that by your distance in yards like so. @500yards = 1.8 x 5 = 9. So at 500y the distance between each line is 9"

This is very handy for bullet drop. Say ur bullet drops 36" @ 500y. 36 devided by 9 = 4. Your hold will be on the 4th line down.

Hope this helps.

Ps. 10x should be the correct zoom. Some scopes like bushnell's are @ 12x instead.

I know the mark 4 fixed 10x m1 well but I don't pay attention to varry zoom scopes much unless there first focal lens zoom.
 
Are the turrets adjustable in Mils to match the reticle, or is it an MOA turret / Mil reticle ? Not sure about your new one, but this was a major deficiency with the previous Leupy Mil reticle scopes, especially considering the very high cost being competitive with other top manufacturers using Mil / Mil or MOA / MOA scopes.
 
I still think Leupold hasn't figured that out yet. I am sure they have but still don't make the reticle and turrets speak the same language. Thats why I went with NF with moa turrets and moa reticle. Makes life much easier and as a result I got rid of my Leupolds and went with NF, I am glad I did.
 
EC said:
I still think Leupold hasn't figured that out yet. I am sure they have but still don't make the reticle and turrets speak the same language. Thats why I went with NF with moa turrets and moa reticle. Makes life much easier and as a result I got rid of my Leupolds and went with NF, I am glad I did.
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Agreed, who wants to convert mil to moa in the field. I have a U.S. optics with mil reticle/mil adjustments (ffp) and it sure is nice to spot your miss, measure with the reticle, and make the correction with a turret in the same format. Works slick.
 
In the field how often do you really have time to mess with turrets anyway.

My 0 for example is the top 5th mildot witch is flat. This allows me to shoot all the way to 900y with out using the turrets in my .308

When I use turrets I still go with moa. It is much easer to do quick math in .25, .5, .75, 1. Aka quarter #'s than even #'s like 1.8 in my head.
 
With the TMR reticle I don't care if the turret matches the reticle. I'm not a sniper so I have no need to calculate all that out. I just need to know how much to hold off when wind changes in F-Class matches. I won't be wasting time dialing in each shot.
So, it depends on your needs. Don't need the Mildots, but the TMR will work for me.

BTW,
You can recalibrate the reticle to MOA by multiplying the power by .86. That gets the 8.5-25 working in MOA at 21.5 power and the 6.5-20 at 17.2 power.
 
lejarretnoir said:
With the TMR reticle I don't care if the turret matches the reticle. I'm not a sniper so I have no need to calculate all that out. I just need to know how much to hold off when wind changes in F-Class matches. I won't be wasting time dialing in each shot.
So, it depends on your needs. Don't need the Mildots, but the TMR will work for me
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Thats the whole purpose of having reticles and turrets speaking the same language. You don't need to calulate or do any conversions, doesn't matter if you are a sniper or not. The TMR is still graduated in mils, the only difference is hash marks vs dots. To each his own though.
 
Seeing as how I was going to go with a simple fine cross hair, I won't be using the mil-dot or tactical milling. It doesn't bother me as long as the turrets are MOA.
 
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EC said:
Thats the whole purpose of having reticles and turrets speaking the same language. You don't need to calulate or do any conversions, doesn't matter if you are a sniper or not. The TMR is still graduated in mils, the only difference is hash marks vs dots. To each his own though.
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AFAIK, you can now get the M5 turrets with these scopes.
Hey, I'm the last guy to knock down anyones choice of scopes, but I'm not willing to spend any more than I have to get good glass. Ranging with Mildots is useless to target shooters at known distances, but if your needs are to range precisely at unknown distances I can understand.
 
lejarretnoir said:
AFAIK, you can now get the M5 turrets with these scopes.
Hey, I'm the last guy to knock down anyones choice of scopes, but I'm not willing to spend any more than I have to get good glass. Ranging with Mildots is useless to target shooters at known distances, but if your needs are to range precisely at unknown distances I can understand.
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Regarding the highlighted portion you are absolutely correct for known distance whether graduated in mils or moa. Graduated reticles are used more for holdovers, moving targets or for wind anyway.
 
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