I shot my 91/30 today. No SAFETY?

[RemingtonMarlin]

Hi, I shot my Mosin 91/30 today at range for the first time. I found out that the trigger is quite sensitive to "squeeze motion". However there is no safety I can find.

Is it safe for hunting situation?

Thank you.

The result is "good". 15 rounds of milsurplus ammo ended in somewhere unknown, not on paper at least.

Then I shot 20 rounds hunting ammo. most of them were on paper. I even
managed to hit the gong once. All at 100 yards with iron sight in sitting position without rest.

 

[#1bcshooter]

Pull back & turn bolt . Safety is now on .

 

[eos]

You pull back on the cocking piece and turn counter-clockwise until it engages.

 

[RemingtonMarlin]

Thank you for the tips, #1bc and eos. So how does the safety work? Does it lock the trigger? how could I disengage it when I decide to shoot?

This afternoon, I did had problem to open the bolt once. maybe, I just put the safety on.

 

[Calum]

Thank you for the tips, #1bc and eos. So how does the safety work? Does it lock the trigger? how could I disengage it when I decide to shoot?

This afternoon, I did had problem to open the bolt once. maybe, I just put the safety on.

It simply disables the bolt.
No need for anything else really.

To disengage it reverse the steps you took to lock it.

 

[louthepou]

One quick mod. Pull back on the cocking piece with a force similar to a bull elephant's, then turn counter clockwise

Lou

 

[Bobby Ironsights]

One quick mod. Pull back on the cocking piece with a force similar to a bull elephant's, then turn counter clockwise

Lou

Yes, that's correct, I haven't heard this put better.

This afternoon, I did had problem to open the bolt once. maybe, I just put the safety on.

No way, Jose. The incredible hulk couldn't put that safety on by accident, much less pull it back out by accident.

The 91/30 was my first centerfire rifle, and I'm fond of it, but in practical terms, no, you have no mechanical safety whatsoever.

 

[H Wally]

Louthepou's got it. Sometimes mosins jam when you try to open the bolt after firing. Cosmolene in the chamber, bolt, or some other part of the action there could cause that, but it's also part of what makes it a mosin.

If it's really stuck, with a fired cartridge in the chamber, pull the cocking piece back until it's recocked. It may be easier to open the bolt then. This is because the mosin bolt partially recocks on opening, so it takes some of the resistance off you.

 

[Bobby Ironsights]

I was just thinking, I think the "safety" was actually the red army's physical fitness exam.

 

[SeamusMac]

I've heard so much talk about the ridiculously difficult to operate mosin safety and I'm eager to try my luck at Russian the strong man challenge.

 

[TheIndifferent1]

Much easier to leave the chamber empty, and when you're ready to shoot, chamber a round.

 

[Calum]

I took another look at my M44 tonight and actually the safety from the closed bolt position (cocks on opening) disengages the sear and locks up the bolt quite nicely.

From the open bolt position one can do the same twist (carefully) and relive the tension on the spring for open bolt storage.

Quite a simple and rather elegant system really.

 

[slicknick]

What would the concensus be on having a round in the chamber with the rifle decocked and quickly cocking the rifle when you want to shoot?

 

[PerversPépère]

Beware!

What would the concensus be on having a round in the chamber with the rifle decocked and quickly cocking the rifle when you want to shoot?

DO NOT decock the rifle on a live round! It will fire!
The firing pin will come to rest on the primer under residual spring tension.
That tension is strong enough to compress the primer mix and the rifle will discharge at the slightest jolt.
The best way to keep a round in the chamber is simply push it in with the bolt but not go past the cocking point where it begins to turn down and completes the spring's tensioning.
When you see your game, just #### the bolt slowly, it is not noisy.
The noisy part is when stripping a round from the magazine.
PP.

 

[Calum]

Or just use the safety.
The bolt and firing pin are not moving with that herculean safety on.

 

[howasan]

One note on stuck bolt. A piece of 2x4 can come in handy. No kidding.
Better to clean and polish the chamber to facilitate extraction.

 

[cantom]

One note on stuck bolt. A piece of 2x4 can come in handy. No kidding.
Better to clean and polish the chamber to facilitate extraction.

I watched a guy at a range one day trying to fire a Mosin. He spent a lot of time hammering on the bolt trying to get it to open...I can only imagine the Russian soldiers got a bit frustrated with the things...

 

[skirsons]

Quite a simple and rather elegant system really.

I think it's conceivable that the safety was not even intentionally designed!

They just put all the prototype bolt pieces together and said "Oh, look! It does this too!"

 

[PerversPépère]

Most of this sticking is caused by a combination of a rough or dirty chamber and some lackered ammo: the heat of the firing makes the lacker stick to the chamber walls and extraction get difficult.
Get some furniture stripper stuff or brake cleaner on a 28 gauge bronze brush and rid the chamber of these residues. Then polish it with some auto paint polishing compound on a rag wound onto an eyelet jag screwed at the end of a broken cleaning rod.
Just chuck this in an electric drill and polish away.
PP.

 

[Calum]

I think it's conceivable that the safety was not even intentionally designed!

They just put all the prototype bolt pieces together and said "Oh, look! It does this too!"

I wouldn't doubt it.

Mind you the left side of the receiver has that nice ramp ground for the safety.