IBM and the Holocaust

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I'm currently reading "Hidden Beneath The Thorns" ghost written by Gabrielle Quinn. It chronicles the memoirs of a young girl who grew up during the Nazi era.

Her family was one of a number that went out of it's way to rescue and hide Jews, at great risk to the family. The following really caught my interest:

"The usual census methods of recording who was a Jew were laboriously slow. Along came the solution people. International Business Machines (IBM), was an American conglomerate. It's owner, Thomas J. Watson was a man with a shady past. He readily agreed to help Hitler and his Nazi regime by customizing the applications to count and classify every citizen of Germany. In this way, it was easy to sort out those of Aryan descent apart from those of Jewish descent. Even better, it could be done quickly, the Hollerith, was capable of sorting 250,000 cards in one hour. It soon became a manager of murder.

Am army of 750,000 dedicated volunteer census takers descended an all cities, towns, villages and farms within Germany. No one was over looked. They went house to house collecting the required information. Pointed questions were asked about all aspects of personal life and citizens of the Reich willingly cooperated. Jewish citizens had no idea what was ahead.

Loaded with this data, Jews could now be registered by name. This was a list of those they would eventually annihilate; a list which eventually would drift up crematoria chimneys.

Because of the massive relationship foreseen with Hitler, IBM purchased land in Germany to build a manufacturing plant for more Hollerith machines. This corporation then expanded operations to include neighbouring countries to expand census taking capabilities in those regions. If the extermination of the Jews from European soil was to be a successful endeavour, Jews of newly acquired territories also had to be brought into the final tally. Included were France, Belgium, Holland, Austria, Czechoslovakia, and Poland. This meant that when Hitler waltzed in and occupied them, the required information was already at hand."

The book further states that the IBM operation was never bombed because of the heavy foreign investment!

I've often wondered about the efficiency of the Germans in rounding up Jews and others in occupied countries. This system, coupled with the willing cooperation of the occupied countries sealed the fate of European Jewry. The mass exodus of Jews was effectively stopped when most countries closed their borders to refugees.

In other words - they were complicit in the mass extermination of millions.
 
There are a pile of American companies and Dutch companies that profited from the Nazis and the war. President Bush Sr Sr was charged with trading with the enemy as their bank made immense profits on the buildup and use of the Nazi war machine.
Ford had a thing for Hitler and built trucks and motors for them
Royal Dutch Shell sold leaded fuel to them that was used for bombing Holland and Europe.
American steel and rail companies built and funded the railways to Auschwitz and elsewhere.
Standard Oil profited from the war.
IBM kept track of Jews and others in concentration/labour/death camps.

Many believe that was part of the reason the US was hesitant to join the war effort for so long.

Watch 9/11 to JFK Everything is a Rich Man's Trick
 
Last I checked, the Nazis weren’t the ones that got nuked...
Thanks for pointing that out. The folk at Los Alamos were assuming Germany was the target until it wasn't. Hence the long list of Jewish names at Los Alamos.


“not to remember the reason that I said I was doing it, so that when the reason changed—Germany was defeated— not the singlest thought came to my mind about that— that now I have to reconsider why I am continuing to do this. I simply didn't think, okay?” “I don't guarantee you as to what conclusion I would have come to if I had thought about it, but nevertheless the fact that I did not think about it was, of course, wrong.” - Richard Feynman.

 
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Thanks for pointing that out. The folk at Los Alamos were assuming Germany was the target until it wasn't. Hence the long list of Jewish names at Los Alamos.

Reading the Great Gatsby got me looking after a referral to a book called The Rise of the Colored Empires by an American, Lothrop Stoddard. I assumed it was fiction, but not, the Nazis derived a much of their ideology from him, including the word Untermensch from a German translation of his works. A lot of Jews in the American nuclear project, because most of the prominent people in Physics at that time were Jews. The bomb was originally intended for Germany, but the collapse before the bomb could be tested changed the target to Japan. Revisionists claim using it was unnecessary, but the Japs were fanatical enough to fight to the last and it was estimated that there would be 3 million casualties in the invasion of the home islands. It was a simple decision. Henry Ford had close connections to Hitler and the Nazi regime as well.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/henryford-antisemitism/


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There are a pile of American companies and Dutch companies that profited from the Nazis and the war. President Bush Sr Sr was charged with trading with the enemy as their bank made immense profits on the buildup and use of the Nazi war machine.
Ford had a thing for Hitler and built trucks and motors for them
Royal Dutch Shell sold leaded fuel to them that was used for bombing Holland and Europe.
American steel and rail companies built and funded the railways to Auschwitz and elsewhere.
Standard Oil profited from the war.
IBM kept track of Jews and others in concentration/labour/death camps.

Many believe that was part of the reason the US was hesitant to join the war effort for so long.

Watch 9/11 to JFK Everything is a Rich Man's Trick

Watching it now .
 
I'm currently reading "Hidden Beneath The Thorns" ghost written by Gabrielle Quinn. It chronicles the memoirs of a young girl who grew up during the Nazi era.

Her family was one of a number that went out of it's way to rescue and hide Jews, at great risk to the family. The following really caught my interest:

"The usual census methods of recording who was a Jew were laboriously slow. Along came the solution people. International Business Machines (IBM), was an American conglomerate. It's owner, Thomas J. Watson was a man with a shady past. He readily agreed to help Hitler and his Nazi regime by customizing the applications to count and classify every citizen of Germany. In this way, it was easy to sort out those of Aryan descent apart from those of Jewish descent. Even better, it could be done quickly, the Hollerith, was capable of sorting 250,000 cards in one hour. It soon became a manager of murder.

Am army of 750,000 dedicated volunteer census takers descended an all cities, towns, villages and farms within Germany. No one was over looked. They went house to house collecting the required information. Pointed questions were asked about all aspects of personal life and citizens of the Reich willingly cooperated. Jewish citizens had no idea what was ahead.

Loaded with this data, Jews could now be registered by name. This was a list of those they would eventually annihilate; a list which eventually would drift up crematoria chimneys.

Because of the massive relationship foreseen with Hitler, IBM purchased land in Germany to build a manufacturing plant for more Hollerith machines. This corporation then expanded operations to include neighbouring countries to expand census taking capabilities in those regions. If the extermination of the Jews from European soil was to be a successful endeavour, Jews of newly acquired territories also had to be brought into the final tally. Included were France, Belgium, Holland, Austria, Czechoslovakia, and Poland. This meant that when Hitler waltzed in and occupied them, the required information was already at hand."

The book further states that the IBM operation was never bombed because of the heavy foreign investment!

I've often wondered about the efficiency of the Germans in rounding up Jews and others in occupied countries. This system, coupled with the willing cooperation of the occupied countries sealed the fate of European Jewry. The mass exodus of Jews was effectively stopped when most countries closed their borders to refugees.

In other words - they were complicit in the mass extermination of millions.

IMHO, that is mostly misrepresentation and BS.

I sincerely doubt IBM was informed that census machines were being used specifically to identify jewish people for exterminaton and then willingly proceeded along as profits rolled in.

If North Korea uses PCs to hack western systems and wage cyber-war, is Bill gates complicit because the machines ran on Wndows? Hardly.
 
It should also be noted that the I.G. Farben plant near Auschwitz was never bombed either, for the same reasons. It used inmates as slave labour, people who were worked to death even after a plea was made that it made no sense to kill off trained workers.
 
IMHO, that is mostly misrepresentation and BS.

I sincerely doubt IBM was informed that census machines were being used specifically to identify jewish people for exterminaton and then willingly proceeded along as profits rolled in.

If North Korea uses PCs to hack western systems and wage cyber-war, is Bill gates complicit because the machines ran on Wndows? Hardly.

You really need to do more reading if you think that the world at large did not know what was going on in Nazi Germany pre-war and during the war. Professing not to know was willful ignorance in the face of factual evidence from many sources.
 
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