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Can anybody give me the proper model number of my Husqvarna?

Improved Mauser, I think it is called the 1640 action. 21" bbl, just under 6 pounds, a crown over "H" over Sweden engraved on action ring, alloy floor plate, .30-06, barrel markings; Husqvarna Vapenfabriks A.B. 30-06 U.S., 244### A Nitro, with proof mark.

Thanks a lot.
 
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vega said:
Can anybody give me the proper model number of my Husqvarna?

Improved Mauser, I think it is called the 1640 action. 21" bbl, just under 6 pounds, a crown over "H" over Sweden engraved on action ring, alloy floor plate, .30-06, barrel markings; Husqvarna Vapenfabriks A.B. 30-06 U.S., 244### A Nitro, with proof mark.

Thanks a lot.
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Pat is correct. It is either a Model 4100(most likely) with a straight comb stock and 20.5" barrel or a Model 4000 which is the same except for Monte Carlo stock. That gun would have been made in the early 60s. Hope this helps.


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Greg
 
The Husqvarna "Improved Mauser" is just what it says. A Mauser action that was slightly modified for easier production.
If your rifle has a long Mauser extractor mechanical ejector with a sliding safety catch, it's a 1640. Discontinued in 1967.
If it has a short extractor, a modern ejector and small extra guiding-lug on the lower locking-lug, it's a 1900.
The other models are variations of the same rifles. Husqvarna sold their firearms division to Carl Gustav in 1970, who stopped making them in the late 70's. It's a pity too. They're good rifles.
 
jeez...

Good heavens, I was confused before:)

Anyhow, sorry about that but I can't do pics 'cause I ain't got no camera and I wouldn't know how to do it nohow.

Also sorry about that, I always thought improved Mauser meant long extractor etc., but anyhow, this rifle has one. It is also a straight comb with lots of drop at the heal, stocked for the irons, with typically European cheek piece. Schnabel fore-end, checkered, swivels, hard plastic butt plate with Husky TM.

I checked one websight I could find and they said this action is called the 1640, but several different models were built on it. Unfortunately, they don't describe the different guns. They said this action was used from '53 to '67.

The wood to metal fit is superb, the dimensions are beautifully done, and the overall finish and quality is close to custom in a very nicely understated way. I wonder that they don't get more attention and valuation in the hook and bullet press.

Hopefully, this is enough info for someone to nail this down?

Thanks a lot for all the input fo far.
 
vega & all

The Husqvarna rifle have been sold under different names in North America.
The 1640 series seem to be the most common. Contrary to advertisement and some people's believes, it is not an "improved Mauser". The 1640 series action is based on the Swedish m/94 with features of the m/96 miltary rifle. It has also features of the m/98. It was produced during 1953-1967, but according to the Swedes it was a poor economic venture.
Earlier, from 1937 on, Husqvarna used the FN made m/98 for its rifles. The first ones were standard 98s with the thumb slots, called 146 and 246 series. In 1944, after the war, Husqvarna got an "improved" Mod 98 from FN to use for its rifles. It was the 640 series, without the thumb slot, and it is perhaps the finest that Husqvarna ever made. Especially the 649 in 9.3x62 is one nice rifle. :)

Vasa
 
Vasa said:
vega & all

The Husqvarna rifle have been sold under different names in North America.
The 1640 series seem to be the most common. Contrary to advertisement and some people's believes, it is not an "improved Mauser". The 1640 series action is based on the Swedish m/94 with features of the m/96 miltary rifle. It has also features of the m/98. It was produced during 1953-1967, but according to the Swedes it was a poor economic venture.
Earlier, from 1937 on, Husqvarna used the FN made m/98 for its rifles. The first ones were standard 98s with the thumb slots, called 146 and 246 series. In 1944, after the war, Husqvarna got an "improved" Mod 98 from FN to use for its rifles. It was the 640 series, without the thumb slot, and it is perhaps the finest that Husqvarna ever made. Especially the 649 in 9.3x62 is one nice rifle. :)

Vasa
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The push feed 1900 is no slouch either. Undoubtly the smoothest bolt action ever.
 
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Odd isn't it that these rifles were so well made and quite accurate by most accounts, yet on the used market you have trouble getting much over $450.00 for them. FS
 
Tnx

Thanks. Any idea then what I should call this rifle/carbine?

And yeah, Fasteel, it's a mystery to me why they don't bring more $. They are easily as nice (I like them better) than any pre-64 Win. M70 or the like.
 
The small ring Husqvarnas are a nice light rifle--but: in cost saving steps to keep manufacturing costs down they reduced the comparable value when compared to a proper small ring Mauser. They went to a different bolt release/bolt stop ejector system which works well but is not the equivalent of the original Mauser design. They omitted any cross bolting behind the recoil lug and over time many of them have cracked their stocks. Some of the hinged floor plate latching systems are rather cheaply done. There is a definite lack of hand fitting and hand polishing to slick the action up. By comparison if you hold a Brno 21H (or 21F) side by side with the Husqvarna and do a critical comparison of their manufacture you will see two small ring Mauser type actions- one made with care and precision and the other made adequately.
This is not to say the Husqvarna is not a decent rifle. In fact it is. Others are done better. I'd say the prices they sell for reflect the difference in manufacture. As a personal preference I would select a large ring Husqvarna rifle (actions made by FN for the most part , if not all) except when I wanted to build a light weight rifle. These are fairly critical comparisons but should not stop you from using and enjoying the Husqvarna if it turns your crank.
 
If the barrel is 20 1/2" in length, AND begins to taper immediately in front of the receiver ring, it is definitely a model 4100.

The barrel on the model 5000 has a much heavier chamber reinforce, and does not begin to taper until ahead of the chamber.

Some 5000 barrels were shortened, but the heavier barrel is a dead giveaway.

Ted
 
I can't help you on the ID but I can tell you I have sold all my Remingtons,Tikka's,Sakos,and Winchesters in the last year and the only thing left in my safe is a Husqvarna Model 1000 in .270 and a 35 Whelen built on a Husqvarna Model 1000 action. I love the .270 and the 35 Whelen should be awsome as well! I love em personally:)
 
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Thanks very much, All.

Ted, it sure is nice to finally know how to properly identify this rifle. Thanks.

Stocker, I take your point about the ejector. The standard Mauser type is better in my opinion, but I also understand the rationale behind doing away with the cut in the locking lug, theoretical as it may be.

As to cross bolt, this has not proven to be any problem. For one thing, I bedded the action, but my friend had this gun before me and he pounded a pile of 180 factorys thru it with no undue effects. Not bad for a six pound rifle.

As to finish etc., I cannot agree. I have owned tons of nice rifles including the Brno (a fantastic gun) and have not encountered better fitting and finishing anywhere. I personally find the attention to detail most pleasant and efficient. But there's certainly no accounting for taste. Thanks for you input.
 
vega: yes, you bedded the action. I was referring to as delivered fitting and finish. I think I repaired my first cracked Husky stock more than 50 years ago and they are still one of the most common required fix that come to me for repair. I'm not putting the Husqvarna rifle down at all, only trying to draw a pricing comparison as per a comment made previously in the thread. To be truthful I'm not really wild about the internal recoil plate as installed in the Brno's but it is better than nothing to prevent wood set back and moves recoil thrust beyond the wood directly in front of the magazine well.

I'm not sure what exposes a person more: telling a man his wife is ugly or looking objectively at his preferred rifle.
 
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vega: yes, you bedded the action. I was referring to as delivered fitting and finish. I think I repaired my first cracked Husky stock more than 50 years ago and they are still one of the most common required fix that come to me for repair. I'm not putting the Husqvarna rifle down at all, only trying to draw a pricing comparison as per a comment made previously in the thread. To be truthful I'm not really wild about the internal recoil plate as installed in the Brno's but it is better than nothing to prevent wood set back and moves recoil thrust beyond the wood directly in front of the magazine well.

I'm not sure what exposes a person more: telling a man his wife is ugly or looking objectively at his preferred rifle.
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I have owned many Husqvarna's over the years my favourites are the 146, 246 and the 1900 push feed. Only one has had the, over mentioned "crack at the tang" I have also owned Brno's a 21H and a 602. In my experience the Husqvarna's are superior rifles not in the fit and finish dept. but in the quality of steel. The Swedish steel was superior to that used in the Bruno's. The Husky actions always seemed smoother than the Bruno's. Just my opinion.
 
Win 64: the crack at tang usually follows the cracks in the recoil lug support, or set back of that support and cracking of the web in front of the trigger. I'm not sure what expertise you have in evaluating steel quality. I don't have much in that category myself beyond what a file test or grinder sparks tell me. It's all immaterial really, both rifles are good rifles.
 
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